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PilotFrog 05-08-2015 12:37 PM

What was the PS before the merger contract? I seem to remember the joint contract changed it before C2012 changed it again.


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forgot to bid 05-08-2015 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1876211)
9/6/4/4 while keeping PS, adding 1 or 2% to the DC plan and getting AF JV payback would probably pass if voted on today. The PS alone for the next two years could be 20+%. I'm a realist.

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Over 4 years. :D

I think any TA the NC comes out with passes.

RockyBoy 05-08-2015 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1876211)
9/6/4/4 while keeping PS, adding 1 or 2% to the DC plan and getting AF JV payback would probably pass if voted on today. The PS alone for the next two years could be 20+%. I'm a realist.

I'd bet 9/6/4/4 doesn't even come close to a yes this time around. I'm a realist as well and reality says pilots need restoration since we are making 5 BILLION a year in profit and giving shareholders 1.5 of that. If it wasn't for the givebacks of both the north and south guys, there wouldn't be a Delta right now.

forgot to bid 05-08-2015 01:46 PM

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pilotjockey 05-08-2015 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1876223)
If we leave our contract alone, PS alone could be as much as 25%-30% alone without any hourly pay increases. Why rush?
I'm a realist as well.

why, well thats easy, because leaving that much money in someone elses hands for over a year and only if they dont figure out a way to lose it is a bad thing. do the contract first and give us the raises then move a bunch of ps to even higher rates

managment will find a way to f it up, and we will get left holding the bag, no thank you

DeadHead 05-08-2015 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by pilotjockey (Post 1876311)
why, well thats easy, because leaving that much money in someone elses hands for over a year and only if they dont figure out a way to lose it is a bad thing. do the contract first and give us the raises then move a bunch of ps to even higher rates

managment will find a way to f it up, and we will get left holding the bag, no thank you

That would literally be the definition of cutting one's nose to spite their face. Right now, as it stands, the company has to give away a 20% of every dollar made above $2.5 billion. When considering the amount of profit the company is forecast to make over the next 2-3 years, dragging out this negotiation puts nothing but money in our pocket while management drags their feet.

The company is not about to eliminate profit dramatically while our industry counterparts bring in record profits. The stock price would get a kick in the pants and we all know how investment grade we want to be.

Purple Drank 05-08-2015 02:29 PM

No way the company goes in the tank just to reduce profit sharing.
At least not until Sleepy Ed takes over.

4fans 05-08-2015 05:27 PM

Hey guys, which aircraft has the most commutable lines out of NY and ATL? Or is it just anyone's guess?

dogismycopilot 05-08-2015 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 1876396)
Hey guys, which aircraft has the most commutable lines out of NY and ATL? Or is it just anyone's guess?

I can't speak to other categories, but the 88 out of ATL is VERY commuter-friendly. As a junior lineholder, trip trades and swaps can really improve the commutability of your line.

With a little seniority, the 7er out of NYC looked fairly commutable as well.

4fans 05-08-2015 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by dogismycopilot (Post 1876403)
I can't speak to other categories, but the 88 out of ATL is VERY commuter-friendly. As a junior lineholder, trip trades and swaps can really improve the commutability of your line.

With a little seniority, the 7er out of NYC looked fairly commutable as well.

Awesome, thank you for the info!


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