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Old 05-25-2015 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Correct, I am assuming the risk of other employee groups unionizing will make it inevitable. Probably, a bad assumption on my part, with us being in section 6 anything is possible.

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It can also only be triggered every 18 months. The company can grant additional raises between now and Sep of 16 and a review is not triggered.
Old 05-25-2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
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Post of the day. Well played sir, well played.

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Old 05-25-2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
No I mean section 3, payrates, in the contract. I want the union to negotiate section 3 then if the company wants to talk PS we can talk but I hate the way they did the payrates in C2012. 4/8.5/3/3 but they would have been less if we had not given up profit sharing? I do believe most Delta pilots would have voted no to say a 0(that was early anyway)/6.5/3/3 or even an 8.5/3/3. Funny how many Dalpa guys were in the lounge saying don't worry we won't ever see those 3/3 with a wink like we were going to get another bite at the apple before they took effect.
Out of curiosity did anyone ever do a comparison of pay of C2012 vs no C2012 to date was?
Old 05-25-2015 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Correct, I am assuming the risk of other employee groups unionizing will make it inevitable. Probably, a bad assumption on my part, with us being in section 6 anything is possible.

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Ummmmm the only group that is even remotely talking about unionizing are the FAs, and the group that was trying to do so recently punted. I don't believe there is anything on the visible horizon, so do you really want to hang your hat on that?
Old 05-25-2015 | 08:43 PM
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Old 05-25-2015 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Ummmmm the only group that is even remotely talking about unionizing are the FAs, and the group that was trying to do so recently punted. I don't believe there is anything on the visible horizon, so do you really want to hang your hat on that?
Bender,

Are you a line pilot at Delta Air Lines?

It's a simple question. I don't want to know your name. Just curious about your profession.
Old 05-25-2015 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Ummmmm the only group that is even remotely talking about unionizing are the FAs, and the group that was trying to do so recently punted. I don't believe there is anything on the visible horizon, so do you really want to hang your hat on that?

I don't want to hang my hat on anything. I want a TA that we can all vote for, a TA that lacks a bunch of concessions.

But if it is lacking - no rush. If we don't get the pay bumps which as a few pointed out might not happen, we still should be looking at major profit sharing increases.

Anyway - I want to be able to vote yes. I voted yes on C-2012 because it met my minimums. Well with record profits and a recently announced $5 Billion stock buyback my minimums are a lot higher.

I will look at the deal as a whole and make a decision as I expect most will do.

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Old 05-26-2015 | 05:40 AM
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Why any concessions? Improvements or status quo in all sections. Do you think Delta's Board of Directors in the compensation committee are going to ask RA for a single concession in his contract? No, he's going to be backing a Brink's truck up to the G.O. on Virginia Ave.

Call or write your reps now and tell them, no concessions!
Old 05-26-2015 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Why any concessions? Improvements or status quo in all sections. Do you think Delta's Board of Directors in the compensation committee are going to ask RA for a single concession in his contract? No, he's going to be backing a Brink's truck up to the G.O. on Virginia Ave.

Call or write your reps now and tell them, no concessions!
Not only are RA, Ed and the rest of the boys at the top NOT going to grant ANY concessions to themselves, they are also increasing the dividend by 50%! Remember, THEY own hundreds of thousands of shares of Delta Stock, so in effect, they just gave themselves a 50% raise!

But we can't even hope for 2004 pay rates, that would just be 'unreasonable', right?

And while were on that subject, just exactly WHERE did the Billions Delta is making now, come from?

In LOA's 46 and 51 combined, the Delta (south) pilots gave the company roughly $1.3 Billion per year in concessions, many of which are still in effect today (pay rate cuts and PBS manning efficiencies to name just two)

And the Delta Pilot DB plan was underfunded by a little over $4Billlion when the company flushed it.

So add those two events (pay cuts and DB funding) for the past 11 years and what do you get?

HUGE Profits!

So what are they going to do with all of OUR money?

Pat yourselves on the back boys, that's YOUR money they took 11 years ago, and continue to take every two weeks. Now they are going to use it to buy back $6 Billion in stock and pay themselves a 50% increase in dividends!
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I don't want to hang my hat on anything. I want a TA that we can all vote for, a TA that lacks a bunch of concessions.

But if it is lacking - no rush. If we don't get the pay bumps which as a few pointed out might not happen, we still should be looking at major profit sharing increases.

Anyway - I want to be able to vote yes. I voted yes on C-2012 because it met my minimums. Well with record profits and a recently announced $5 Billion stock buyback my minimums are a lot higher.

I will look at the deal as a whole and make a decision as I expect most will do.

Scoop
Scoop speaks for me as well. Precisely what I'm looking for.
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