Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-14-2015 | 09:49 AM
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From: Downward-Facing Dog Pose
Twice a year, we have an outside party (your AME) determine whether we are medically qualified to perform our job. The rest of the year, THE INDIVIDUAL PILOT is responsible for this judgement.
Do not impugn my integrity or judgement if I choose to call in sick for something that isn't easily verified. I don't run to the MD when I have a cold (which, by the way, takes 10-15 days to run it's course), but I sure as hell won't show up to work like Typhoid Mary and expose my co-workers to my crud. Every time I hear some knucklehead say with pride in his voice, "I haven't called in sick for 15 years!", it drives me nuts.
You trust my judgement when I sign for a jet and take a plane-load of people into the Wild Blue. Why not extend that trust to my use of a negotiated benefit? The company is making this out to be a pilot integrity issue. That is a smokescreen, IMHO. This is a blatant attempt to cut costs through a concession that we shouldn't have to deal with. It is a safety of flight and a quality of life issue that should have been fought for by DALPA.
Do not impugn my integrity or judgement if I choose to call in sick for something that isn't easily verified. I don't run to the MD when I have a cold (which, by the way, takes 10-15 days to run it's course), but I sure as hell won't show up to work like Typhoid Mary and expose my co-workers to my crud. Every time I hear some knucklehead say with pride in his voice, "I haven't called in sick for 15 years!", it drives me nuts.
You trust my judgement when I sign for a jet and take a plane-load of people into the Wild Blue. Why not extend that trust to my use of a negotiated benefit? The company is making this out to be a pilot integrity issue. That is a smokescreen, IMHO. This is a blatant attempt to cut costs through a concession that we shouldn't have to deal with. It is a safety of flight and a quality of life issue that should have been fought for by DALPA.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
06-14-2015 | 10:20 AM
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You people are all idiots. Read your current contract section 15B. The new sick leave is only about changing the 100 hour requirement to a day's missed requirement. If there weren't people abusing the system right now then we wouldn't be discussing this. I've had captains tell me without my asking about times they called in sick and weren't sick. You know you're out there and I think the ones most upset about this are guilty parties. Where's the integrity in that huh?
"The new sick leave is only about changing the 100 hour requirement to a days missed requirement" - simply not true! Please educate yourself better on the TA before making statements like this.
The reduction of unverified sick leave from 100 hours to 15 day/80ish hours is only part of the change - and minor in my opinion.
Much more punitive is the removal of the ability to voluntarily verify a sick occurrence as specified in section 14.F.2 of the current PWA and preserve your unverified sick leave for minor issues, like colds. This means any sick occurrence, such as a sprained ankle, hernia procedure, etc. will count against your 15 days - you can't voluntarily verify it under this TA.
The loss of the ability to voluntarily verify will undoubtedly result in many more pilots exhausting their "unverified" sick leave than under the current PWA. Any subsequent minor illness in the next 365 days, like a cold, will require you to get a doctor's note - punitive in my opinion.
I've heard stories of certain categories having 25 percent of the pilots sick on almost any given day. I've heard other stories of pilots using all 270 hours sick leave every year, and it's all "verified." If that is true, and if the company wants to go after that, have at it - just don't penalize the rest of us.
06-14-2015 | 11:21 AM
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I couldn't find it in the contract TA, either. The look back restriction language is supposed to be in an yet to be written, reviewed or seen MOU. This is according to one of my reps. They said it was still being drafted.
Don't trust, you must verify.
06-14-2015 | 11:55 AM
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Sorry to break up the contract talk with a FNG question...
I'm on short call in ATL today, but got an Out of Base GS call for tomorrow. I'm supposed to be on LC tomorrow, does that GS count as actual credit or does it build on top of my reserve guarantee? Right now it shows in iCrew as Act Credit. Also payback days?
Thanks for the wealth of knowledge!
FlyGuy
I'm on short call in ATL today, but got an Out of Base GS call for tomorrow. I'm supposed to be on LC tomorrow, does that GS count as actual credit or does it build on top of my reserve guarantee? Right now it shows in iCrew as Act Credit. Also payback days?
Thanks for the wealth of knowledge!
FlyGuy
06-14-2015 | 12:28 PM
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Sorry to break up the contract talk with a FNG question...
I'm on short call in ATL today, but got an Out of Base GS call for tomorrow. I'm supposed to be on LC tomorrow, does that GS count as actual credit or does it build on top of my reserve guarantee? Right now it shows in iCrew as Act Credit. Also payback days?
I'm on short call in ATL today, but got an Out of Base GS call for tomorrow. I'm supposed to be on LC tomorrow, does that GS count as actual credit or does it build on top of my reserve guarantee? Right now it shows in iCrew as Act Credit. Also payback days?
06-14-2015 | 12:34 PM
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From: Flying the SEC
I read on another forum/FB page a piece by a delta pilot who runs a medical consulting practice. He explained the new sick policy thus: DHC is like a disability board or an HMO (my words). Their sole purpose is to CUT COSTS TO THE COMPANY! Anyone who has an HMO will understand...
06-14-2015 | 12:35 PM
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From: Flying the SEC
Hey FTB. How bout using those mad photoshop skills to do a Hitler reads the new TA video?
06-14-2015 | 01:35 PM
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Wow. Look at the avalanche of c12 yes voters who are now a militant "no. "
We might be able to pull this off!
We might be able to pull this off!
06-14-2015 | 03:06 PM
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You people are all idiots. Read your current contract section 15B. The new sick leave is only about changing the 100 hour requirement to a day's missed requirement. If there weren't people abusing the system right now then we wouldn't be discussing this. I've had captains tell me without my asking about times they called in sick and weren't sick. You know you're out there and I think the ones most upset about this are guilty parties. Where's the integrity in that huh?
06-14-2015 | 03:39 PM
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
I just watched Donatelli's latest video. Wow. He's trying way too hard.
The pay graph he hangs his hat on cherry picks 777 captain pay. By my count, we have 282 of nearly 13,000 pilots at that pay level (744s being parked). But that's what DALPA is using to sell this TA.
It's infuriating. Let's send this POS back and get to work on a contract that represents our wishes.
The pay graph he hangs his hat on cherry picks 777 captain pay. By my count, we have 282 of nearly 13,000 pilots at that pay level (744s being parked). But that's what DALPA is using to sell this TA.
It's infuriating. Let's send this POS back and get to work on a contract that represents our wishes.
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