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GunshipGuy 12-23-2015 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2033610)
You are indeed entitled to single pay and credit for the day scheduled but not flown. It sometimes takes a day or two for the time card to catch up.

Thanks, Herkflyr, I'll look for that. Appreciate the expertise.

Puddyhog 12-24-2015 03:19 AM

Quick non-rev question. I understand that they don't move up medallion members from the back into first class for Trans-Pac international flights. But what if the back is well oversold while the front is reasonably empty? Would they move anyone up in that case (thereby screwing up a non-revs chance to get on) or would they buy off coach PAX and fly the front empty?

MikeF16 12-24-2015 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 2033381)
Wow Dtw 717b down to GSWC. Still not worth working over xmas and xmas eve for me but someone will make out well on it!

EDIT: I just decided to download the bid award to answer a few of my own questions. Looks like yesterday ATL had 4 GSWC and 1 IAWC. Today some lucky guy got a very easy 2 day GSWC that saved him from a crappy 4 day trip that would've started on xmas. 6 days pay and home for most of xmas for an ATL-JAN 2 day turn.


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 2033512)
Hoping someone can help me out with a GS question here.

Situation: 3-day GS. Day two was to be a DH to LGA (Delta Connection flight), then two legs with layover in LGA. Day three was supposed to be a DH back to domicile and done.

On day two the DH (RJ) flight was canceled. No more flights out to LGA until 6.5 hours later. The captain calls crew tracking and they tell him to get the DH leg to JFK and for me to DH to ATL and I'm done.

I just looked at my schedule and time card and it shows as a two day and GS pay for 10:30 for pay.

Am I wrong in thinking the GS should still show 15:45 as it did originally?

Thanks,
GG

You can always call ALPA or scheduling. GS are done manually. In under 1 week I've had both a PB day error and an incorrectly assigned trip on reserve error. Both were fixed with a call the scheduling.

iceman49 12-24-2015 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Puddyhog (Post 2033705)
Quick non-rev question. I understand that they don't move up medallion members from the back into first class for Trans-Pac international flights. But what if the back is well oversold while the front is reasonably empty? Would they move anyone up in that case (thereby screwing up a non-revs chance to get on) or would they buy off coach PAX and fly the front empty?

When it's way oversold it's typical that the historic numbers come into play. The HNL to mainland flights they do move up from the aft to the front, rest of the transpacific not so much.

GunshipGuy 12-24-2015 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2033742)
EDIT: I just decided to download the bid award to answer a few of my own questions. Looks like yesterday ATL had 4 GSWC and 1 IAWC. Today some lucky guy got a very easy 2 day GSWC that saved him from a crappy 4 day trip that would've started on xmas. 6 days pay and home for most of xmas for an ATL-JAN 2 day turn.



You can always call ALPA or scheduling. GS are done manually. In under 1 week I've had both a PB day error and an incorrectly assigned trip on reserve error. Both were fixed with a call the scheduling.

Herkflyr was right. I looked it up in the PWA, but was glad to get his explanation as my contract reading skills are not great.

As to your question, I have no idea. But a similar question was in my mind with the GSWCs I saw being assigned and this was, If you get a GSWC do you get paid for the entire trip that you were originally scheduled? My reading of the PWA would indicate yes, even the credit. I have a 5 day trip coming up that has 12 hours of block and 14 hours of credit and was concerned that if by chance I do get a GSWC would I get paid the entire trip. I think I would.

UncleSam 12-24-2015 06:10 AM

Could Delta Lawsuit Have Chilling Effect
 
Just in case you haven't seen it, here is the article about the Maddog upgrade that went south.

Could Delta lawsuit Have a Chilling Affect on Aftermarket Cockpits?: AvWeek | Airline and Aviation Forums | Airnation.net Social Hangar

Bobman80 12-24-2015 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 2033520)
Thanks.
Yes, regular line holder.

Follow up question from your comment "The day three that you originally were going to pay will be paid out at straight pay and credit, and the first two will be double pay/no credit (assuming you are a regular lineholder)."

My time card shows 15:45 for sked time for the trip and pay of 10:30.
G/Slip Pay: 10:30

To me that means 10:30 of GS pay. But your comment makes me wonder if you're saying I am entitled to the third day of straight pay for the scheduled day that was canceled. I'm guessing not and that I am just reading your comment wrong.

Your trip should pay 15:45 and then 10:30 GS pay.

GunshipGuy 12-24-2015 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bobman80 (Post 2033800)
Your trip should pay 15:45 and then 10:30 GS pay.

Thanks...will check time card when it closes out.

Bobman80 12-24-2015 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 2033802)
Thanks...will check time card when it closes out.

No problem. Merry Christmas.

forgot to bid 12-24-2015 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 2033784)
Just in case you haven't seen it, here is the article about the Maddog upgrade that went south.

Could Delta lawsuit Have a Chilling Affect on Aftermarket Cockpits?: AvWeek | Airline and Aviation Forums | Airnation.net Social Hangar

So much to work with this in this one paragraph.


The “development” aspect of the program was particularly true for the legacy FMS, for which IS&S was to replace some—but not all—of the functions. “Delta prohibited IS&S from completely replacing the existing FMS because it contains proprietary algorithms that calculate the optimal vertical flight path to minimize fuel consumption,” says IS&S in the complaint. Delta denies that claim as well as IS&S’s assertion that the airline ultimately canceled the program because it “adopted a new fleet-planning strategy” that calls for replacing the MD-88s and MD-90s. “In short, Delta has changed its mind about the retrofit project and come down with a case of buyer’s remorse,” the complaint argues.
I totally don't buy that the 88 has an algorithm to optimize vertical flight paths but I absolutely believe that what's there is proprietary. :D

That said it looks like DAL wants out of the 88/90. Hmmm. Something something something Embraer 190.


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