I saw the article on Deltanet and thought, who's the sucker in this story: Wait--it could be me for even reading this stupidity. So my life coach jumped in and said, "NO!" before I could click on it.

Going back to the payback days discussion, let's say a pilot has 6 paypack days in the bank.

Tomorrow is new year's eve, and the pilot wants to use the payback days to possibly drop a trip in February or March, and any remaining days as SUPP vacation days in the fall.

Is any action required by new year's eve? As in, do they not automatically change to vacation days until the end of March?

Just had this discussion with an ALPA contract guru yesterday. You do not do anything now with the PB days, but during the vac bid process you bid them as SUPP vac days. Then, during the first 3 months of the year, if desired you can PD a trip or reserve days. Then you would call scheduling and tell them you would like to use your SUPP days to cover all or a portion of the PD trip, and get paid for the portion of the trip dropped.

I had 3 PB in my bank this December. I have a line in January.
I dropped a turn (5.15cr) in January. AFTER it dropped, I called Scheduling and they applied one of my PB on that dropped trip.

I then had a 4 day that I dropped as well. I again called Scheduling AFTER I dropped my 4 day and asked them to apply my last 2 PB days on my dropped 4 day.
I only did that because that 4 day was "front loaded" with high block (lots of flying on the first 2 days) and it credited me with close to 12hrs cr.
My total credit for those 3 PB days was close to 18hrs.

You have to be careful. EVERY Delta trip pays CREDIT on the last day of the trip. If you dont have enough PB to cover all the days of your trip,(3PB days for a 3 day or 4PB days for a 4 day, etc) just make sure the days your are covering are high block because you will only get paid for block hrs IF you PB days are not enough to cover the entire trip.

Also, you dont get to select how many PB days you can use on each trip. It will use as many as you have to cover a trip. You cannot have 4 PB days in your bank and selectively use only 2 to cover a 4 day trip. It will automatically burn all 4 of your PB days to cover that 4 day.

Clear as mud?

Happy Hollidays

Cog, I understand what you're saying. I think there is also an argument that over the years that we have lost many Billions due to our company's fuel hedging strategy. When compared to companies that do not hedge I would say that the advantage appears to be relatively small compared to the large loss that we incurred over time. In other words if our competitors are largely not hedging if oil goes up we all share the pain relatively equally.

Time sensitive, appreciate any help. Got a robocall for IA. Some of the trips would result in conflict. I want to fly the conflict trip, but there were lots of trips that would just suck and not be with conflict. Anybody know if I can call and ask for only the conflict trip without the risk of involuntarily getting stuck with one of the garbage trips that are not with conflict?

Thanks!

Not sure how that would work - especially if the coverage sequence calls for straight IAs/GSs to be filled prior to conflicts. You could try to quickly go to PCS and fill out a GSWC for only the trips you want.

Scoop

do we still get a discount on lift tickets at vail owned resorts? Couldn't find it on deltanet

Ok, Now that the final paystubs of the year are available, I am trying to figure out which numbers from the paystub to add up to get the "Annual Compensation" number used for profit sharing? The contract definition is below but it doesn't exactly jive with what I read on the paystub.

Can anyone tell me which line items to add up?


Annual compensation” for purposes of the profit sharing plan, means an employee’s
30 gross earnings during the profit sharing plan year, including any sick and vacation pay
31 (whether paid by the Company or from a disability and survivor trust), but excluding: a)
32 expense reimbursements, b) expense allowances, c) income required to be imputed to the
33 employee for any reason pursuant to federal, state or local law, d) profit sharing awards,
34 e) earnings from any other incentive compensation program, f) Company contributions to
35 a retirement plan, g) disability payments, h) income from the grant, vesting, exercise or
36 sale of Delta stock or Delta stock options, i) income relating to, or resulting from,
37 bankruptcy claims, notes, or other securities, j) medical plan payments and k) severance payments. In addition, annual compensation for the purposes of the profit sharing plan
includes pilot furlough pay.

unless you need pin point accuracy.....add flight pay and advance flight pay.....close enough