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scambo1 01-20-2016 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2051630)
IMHO they are debating about how much to backfill. Backfill is really the only variable once an AE or released. They never have to award the number of posted vacancies.

Agreed. I think there are some behind the scenes balancing difficulties going on. They are trying to draw down both the 744 and dtw777 without displacing and causing further training churn.

Jetnfast 01-20-2016 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jughead135 (Post 2051375)
I am making that assumption, yes; I don't see why it would be any different (i.e., you're unqualified until the LCA puts "OK" on your schedule, so you can't put more flying on there until you're qualified).

I called scheduling to confirm and they validated what you said. I am "unqualified" so therefore no PW, PS etc. Thanks again for your reply...

I thnk we have crossed paths before on the employee shuttle bus at MCI...still commuting from there? I am out west now...

80ktsClamp 01-20-2016 08:34 PM

Ode to the Maddog:


80ktsClamp 01-20-2016 08:34 PM

Ode to the Maddog:


DeadHead 01-21-2016 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2051824)
Ode to the Maddog:


That's pretty funny.:D

Flamer 01-21-2016 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by 135TOAD (Post 2051227)
I normally don't bid a reserve line but I bid reserve for Feb. I put my request in for known mil leave per the FOM & now I'm unable to move X days over the mloa days because it's a known absence. Any idea when this changed?

That should not be the case. Call the scheds.

S3toHerk 01-21-2016 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 2051876)
That should not be the case. Call the scheds.

Are you sure? I'd call the ALPA scheduling committee and ask them first. Schedules could be busy and depending on who answers not very patient. Besides, scheduler are not contract experts.

milky 01-21-2016 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by S3toHerk (Post 2051883)
Are you sure? I'd call the ALPA scheduling committee and ask them first. Schedules could be busy and depending on who answers not very patient. Besides, scheduler are not contract experts.

If I'm not mistaken, this is correct.

If you put in your MLOA prior to the month starting, they prorate your month accordingly (and give you fewer X days and less guarantee). So, if you move your X day to a MLOA day, you are actually volunteering to be on duty more days for the same (lesser) pay.

If, on the other hand, you are awarded your schedule first, then put in your mil leave, you have a full reserve guarantee from which to move X days. So, when you move your X days to a day you plan to take mil leave, you are just saying "I want to work a full schedule for Delta and work for the mil on my day off." Then when you drop mil leave on top of your X day, they will make it a mil X day and it will basically be the same as a golden X day because they cannot hold you over into a mil leave X day.

So, you have to decide when you bid reserve whether you want to be paid a full month at Delta or if you want to work a pro-rated month. If you want full pay, bid first then drop mil on X days. Otherwise, you will get less work days and a lower guarantee.

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

S3toHerk 01-21-2016 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by milky (Post 2051928)
If I'm not mistaken, this is correct.

If you put in your MLOA prior to the month starting, they prorate your month accordingly (and give you fewer X days and less guarantee). So, if you move your X day to a MLOA day, you are actually volunteering to be on duty more days for the same (lesser) pay.

If, on the other hand, you are awarded your schedule first, then put in your mil leave, you have a full reserve guarantee from which to move X days. So, when you move your X days to a day you plan to take mil leave, you are just saying "I want to work a full schedule for Delta and work for the mil on my day off." Then when you drop mil leave on top of your X day, they will make it a mil X day and it will basically be the same as a golden X day because they cannot hold you over into a mil leave X day.

So, you have to decide when you bid reserve whether you want to be paid a full month at Delta or if you want to work a pro-rated month. If you want full pay, bid first then drop mil on X days. Otherwise, you will get less work days and a lower guarantee.

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

This sounds right. Also, If you have X days on your DWE or on any other day you are doing Mil duties, be sure to drop the MIL Leave on those X days so you don't get rerouted into your X day. Like most lessons, I learned this the hard way.

Big E 757 01-21-2016 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2051630)
IMHO they are debating about how much to backfill. Backfill is really the only variable once an AE or released. They never have to award the number of posted vacancies.

I agree. On the last AE, they said there might be displacements on the ER on this bid. No displacements but with 15 NYC A330 A openings, they may need to backfill if ER guys bid off, lest they be short again this summer. Plus, one of the 717 sims is just coming back on line at the Delta training center so that could be a factor too. Not to mention scambos comment on the 777 and 747. Saw two 747's doing military charters in the past 3 days. One in HHN and one in BWI. If there are going to be mil charter opportunities, it would be a shame to get short on pilots.


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