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TurbineDriver 09-19-2016 08:50 AM

Anyone know what time the PCS runs are each day?

Rhino Driver 09-19-2016 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by turbinedriver (Post 2206043)
anyone know what time the pcs runs are each day?

0700, 1200, 1700, 2200.

crewdawg 09-19-2016 09:24 AM

^^^beat me to it.

Jughead135 09-19-2016 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by TurbineDriver (Post 2206043)
Anyone know what time the PCS runs are each day?

0700/1200/1700/2200E

Those are "no earlier than" times--the runs typically are done within 20 minutes or so (more often than not, within 5 minutes), but, sometimes, for no obvious reason, they can be an hour or more past the run time. Each "run" is actually *two* runs, the second of which may end up awarding a trip or a drop that wasn't available on the first run, but was freed up by something that changed on the first run. Don't ask me why they don't just let the computer make additional runs until it comes back "no changes" (i.e., why not a 3rd run to catch something freed up on the 2nd run?).

From the 0700E run on the 20th through the end of the month, there are two sets of runs: first the current month, then (typically about 15 - 20 minutes later) the next month. If you happen to be looking in between the current/next month runs, you may see something that's not there the next time you look (after the next-month run happens).

dragon 09-19-2016 01:43 PM

Of import to the PCS runs. They are started manually, I believe its the Scheduling supervisor on duty, which is why it reads "no earlier than". Starting on the 20th there are 2 sets of runs with the second being for the upcoming month. The runs on the 20th for the next month almost always run late since it's the first opportunity many have to change stuff.

Remember drops, pickups and then swaps. Good luck!

MikeF16 09-19-2016 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by SawF16 (Post 2205767)
Sad thing is- even if he was supposed to get SC instead of you, all that's likely to happen is they will ALSO put him on SC with you. I don't know what the "fix" is if you point out the mistake after it's too late for them to assign the other individual SC.

In this case you are probably correct since I don't think SC assignments as described here are contractual. If you find a contractual error, CS will undo what they've done and make it right, or pay somebody a bunch of cash and go as-is. Once I was incorrectly assigned a trip on reserve, I called them on it and they undid all the assignments beginning with mine and assigned them properly. Got me 4 days off. 2nd time they did not call my secondary phone for a GS and although I don't think it was contractually correct, the end result was I got the trip I wanted and they paid the guy who had the trip removed single pay with no obligation. 3rd time I just waited until an incorrectly assigned GS signed in and called them, I got single pay for sitting at home. Last time I caught them sneaking a good deal to management pilots. Asked ALPA to investigate. The management pilots still got the trip but the company paid the FO and captain who should have received the trip and they got to chill at home. I never called CS directly about the management pilot deal, but the other 3 times I called CS, and all 3 times they lied to me to try and cover their tracks. Take screenshots and don't take no for an answer.

Bottom line is call if you're unsure, there may be a good deal in there for somebody.

Stryder 09-20-2016 08:03 AM

Spillover question. So for a spill over trip the trip starts in a month and in that month you get the 5:15 per day as credit for those days. The trip portion in the next month you only get paid the block time you fly in that month. Is that correct?

dragon 09-20-2016 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Stryder (Post 2206738)
Spillover question. So for a spill over trip the trip starts in a month and in that month you get the 5:15 per day as credit for those days. The trip portion in the next month you only get paid the block time you fly in that month. Is that correct?

Just the opposite. Credit is paid on the last day of a trip so whether the trip pays out at the ADG or the trip credit, that comes in the next month. Your current month gets the block time only (plus DH if any).

Stryder 09-20-2016 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 2206742)
Just the opposite. Credit is paid on the last day of a trip so whether the trip pays out at the ADG or the trip credit, that comes in the next month. Your current month gets the block time only (plus DH if any).

Thanks for your help!

gloopy 09-20-2016 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 2206742)
Just the opposite. Credit is paid on the last day of a trip so whether the trip pays out at the ADG or the trip credit, that comes in the next month. Your current month gets the block time only (plus DH if any).

Yeah that's something that should change IMO.

I agree credit has to be paid somewhere, and end of the trip is OK for some situations. But every day should pay 5:15 on each day. Any additional credit can pay at the end of the trip. That's fair and cost neutral, and would insulate pilots from drastic imbalances on some of the weird trips.


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