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TED74 07-20-2016 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2164262)
If a WB captain retires and they want to fill that spot, they have to post it on the AE.

Roger, thanks for the correction. Do you happen to know where this is spelled out?

TED74 07-20-2016 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 2164194)
I see your point Ted. How is your example different than a bunch of 88B's bidding to different equipment? In other words, the 88 category isn't growing, guys are just moving on. So why not just backfill those positions?

Perhaps many of us don't fully understand the AE process.

It's a little cryptic to me and Xray seems to have corrected me. But I would have said the 88Bs are different because those are jobs they give new hires. Contractually, new hires cannot be awarded something that isn't first advertised on an AE.

TED74 07-20-2016 12:54 AM

The last AE award (I can only find it, and not the AE announcement itself) lists Captain awards in 26 separate categories, 11 of which are wide body (If you include 7ER). Surely these weren't all in the AE, but I haven't cross-referenced to verify that all awarded categories with a retiring A slot were first listed in the announcement.

Schwanker 07-20-2016 04:30 AM

TED,
You must post positions on an AE if you intend to replace attrition.

What you are thinking of is backfill. Backfill happens when someone "bids" out of a given position for another position and that vacated position is subsequently filled in the same AE process. This is when you'd see positions awarded that were not on the AE. It was due to vacancies created by the posted AE, not attrition/retirements.

Trip7 07-20-2016 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by surfnski (Post 2163663)
How is it that every month I move up 20-30 numbers and see posters of 330/7ER Retirees plastered all over the lounges and then an AE comes out with nothing but 717 and 88 openings??? Are 717 FOs secretly retiring across the board? What am I missing? (Sarcasm intended)

This AE starts a change in Crew Resources strategy in order to prevent the critical staffing levels we've been seeing on the narrowbodies because of mass exodus to larger equipment on recent AEs.

The main intent of this AE is to create positions for new hires on narrowbodies in order to keep the simulators full, and overstaff the narrowbodies with new hire FOs. That way the replacements will already be there when there is increased movement from the next larger AE.

Per Crew Resources latest newsletter, There will be more opportunity for Delta Pilots over the next few years then there has been in a Generation. Want What You Bid, Bid What You Want

Purple Drank 07-20-2016 06:10 AM

Well if crew resources said it, it must be true.

Xray678 07-20-2016 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2164387)
Roger, thanks for the correction. Do you happen to know where this is spelled out?

PWA, section 22, Filling of vacancies.

blue vortex 07-20-2016 07:39 AM

Can anyone tell me if we still get the FedEx 75% 2 day air discount? I can't find it listed on the Delta Perks website.

RetiredFTS 07-20-2016 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by blue vortex (Post 2164557)
Can anyone tell me if we still get the FedEx 75% 2 day air discount? I can't find it listed on the Delta Perks website.

I have used recently and we get a discount. As far as percentage don't know. But they will tell you price of all the options and 2 day is best deal.

gloopy 07-20-2016 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 2163576)
170 F/O Mad Dogs to NYC. Damn.

That's hilarious. They just keep cramming more cottage cheese into the bursting bag that is the NYC base. In the worst plane with the worst trips with the highest attrit.

Marketing needs to take a back seat to reality. The only way to douse the flames of the operational meltdown is to reduce the NYC base not grow it with commuting new hires who will all bid out the instant they can. #reality


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