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Elliot 01-08-2017 11:44 AM

Another bidding question since we're on the subject. (sorry for the drift)

If a person only has 20 (vacation) days to bid for the calendar year. How does one instruct the system to bid ten days for Primary vaca. and then have the remaining ten days for Secondary vaca.?

Asked another way. Is it possible to bid greater than one week of primary vacation days, but less than two weeks, to leave a minimum of seven days or greater for the secondary vacation bidding?

Thanks.

80ktsClamp 01-08-2017 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 2277087)
I have the same question. Is it just the desktop app that is changing? Can I still just go to the PBS website and enter a bid, or do I have to use the PBS desktop app to submit a bid? I guess I don't get it. I don't see anything about the new interface display/functions that are better than EasyBid. I do have basic questions: if DL recommends I use Google Chrome... why didn't they pre-install it. And... shouldn't the darn thing "sync" automatically or at least be a one button push? I'm gonna go look at all the videos and maybe I'll be a convert. Bye Yall, OFG

My original thinking of it was just the desktop app was changing, but the guy I worked with yesterday said it's the entire system that is changing. I guess I should pay more attention...

Elliot 01-08-2017 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2277079)
Hey guys, when you request a vacation slide in your bid, does it have to be to another week's start date or could you move it to odd days like a wed-tues?

You can use vacation slide in PBS to move the start date of your vacation wherever you want it. I assume your current vacation start date is on a Sunday. If you wanted the prior Fri./Sat. dates off too, and your seniority in category would otherwise allow you to hold those days off, you can use PBS vacation slide to move your vacation (-2) days.

newKnow 01-08-2017 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2277079)
Hey guys, when you request a vacation slide in your bid, does it have to be to another week's start date or could you move it to odd days like a wed-tues?

It's day by day. As in, you can request to slide -1, -2, -3, ... etc. and/or +1, +2, +3. +4....


You can do a range, too.

4fans 01-08-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 2277108)
It's day by day. As in, you can request to slide -1, -2, -3, ... etc. and/or +1, +2, +3. +4....


You can do a range, too.

Great! Thanks Newk and Elliot. Tahoe skiing here I come.

crewdawg 01-08-2017 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 2277099)
Another bidding question since we're on the subject. (sorry for the drift)

If a person only has 20 (vacation) days to bid for the calendar year. How does one instruct the system to bid ten days for Primary vaca. and then have the remaining ten days for Secondary vaca.?

Asked another way. Is it possible to bid greater than one week of primary vacation days, but less than two weeks, to leave a minimum of seven days or greater for the secondary vacation bidding?

Thanks.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong. The way I understand it, is you can only bid in seven day increments. So you could have your PVAC be 7 days or 14 days only (no anything in between like 10). However, anything left over that's less 7 days, will get tacked onto your last awarded week of vacation. So if you bid 14 days for your PVAC, the last 6 days will be tacked onto your PVAC. The catch is ALL THREE weeks have to be available for it to award.


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2277074)
I've seen more blurbs about the new PBS app from DALPA and the Company than I care to count. Bottom line -- we can still use the normal PBS link on Deltanet for the time being, correct?

I used the same old PBS to put in all my bids. Then when I went to check out the new web app, it had my bids uploaded into it...so I assume we're still good to use the old system.

deadseal 01-08-2017 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2276941)
You're half right. It isn't complaining or arguing, it IS making excuses (which I'm not doing). And if you take a chuck in the face, it's more likely that you didn't have SA...not that you lost it.

Green slips aren't paid for committing to fulfill a schedule (see GS on reserve, which you can get without ever flying again in the month). They are paid to help the company get out of a pickle. Mil leave-takers can do that just as well as pure civilian pilots.

I understand and could get behind greenslips just being green slips with no triggers. It's a line the company couldn't fill, and required someone to come in during their off time. Would be worth looking into.
Loss of SA could be during the brief or at MAR, or wherever. I would constitute that comment as "quibbling" 🙃

captkdobbs 01-08-2017 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2277236)
I used the same old PBS to put in all my bids. Then when I went to check out the new web app, it had my bids uploaded into it...so I assume we're still good to use the old system.

The way the email/texts/videos sound, the new system is being tested and as such, the old systems link in to it and allows you to use either system to get your bids in.
Once the new system becomes the 'official bidding system', all the emails say that both the current desktop software and the current online version is going to "sunset".
Since they are using that phrase, and since they're giving all the warnings about easybid not being able to interface with the new system, it sounds like they're going to simply shut down the old online system and disable the desktop software interface. At least that is what 'sunset' makes me think.

tunes 01-08-2017 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2276969)
If mil leave users want to get a GS, then there is also a contractual remedy for that--bid a reserve line, and GS on reserve off days. I just don't see any push to allow for MLOA to be counted against the regular line GS trigger like vacation is. I suppose if the company came to us with that request (which I doubt they ever will) then we might consider it. But I don't ever want to waste negotiating capital otherwise for something that they likely never considered or wanted in the first place.



As a mil guy myself I don't think mil should count toward the GS trigger for a line.


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Galaxydriver 01-08-2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2277327)
As a mil guy myself I don't think mil should count toward the GS trigger for a line.


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Why does there have to be a GS trigger?


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