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Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2276818)
It's quibbling plain and simple
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
(Post 2276801)
Does anyone know how many credits a single reserve day is? Just wondering if I call in sick over a 4 day stretch of reserve how much sick time it will burn. Thanks.
Example: November ALV in a category was 72 hours, and a pilot has 16 days on call. (Extra day off because of extra X day, etc). Sick for 5 days - each day sick is means you have 1/16 less of the month on call. 1/16 is .0625 - multiple that times the ALV, 72= 4.5 hours for each day sick in that month. Each category is different each month, but between 4-5 hours for each reserve day is typical. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2276881)
It's a far better deal then the reservists had in the past.
Guardsmen of old would rotate in (voluntarily) for one or two weeks of Northern / Southern Watch at a time. Easy peasy! |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2276893)
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
(Post 2276864)
Yes but you might (I personally don't think so and don't feel like looking it up) be subject to 23k recovery flying.
F. Rotation Guarantee 1. After completion of line adjustment, a regular pilot who is unable to fly a rotation or portion thereof that originates on his regular line, due to IROPS or an FAR or PWA conflict, will receive pay and credit for the greater of: a. the scheduled credit of such rotation, or b. his accumulated credit for: 1) recovery flying under Section 23 K., or 2) the rerouted rotation flown under Section 23 L. Exception: A pilot who is removed from a rotation due to either of the following IROPS 27 will have no recovery obligation under Section 23 K. 1. 1. FAR 60 -in-168 conflict. So that is me. I checked my time card and it shows me sked 26:37 with 5:15 pay. They removed me from the rest of the trip. Will that change then after I do my turn today and the log stat closes? |
Originally Posted by deadseal
(Post 2276932)
It's slang in the Air Force for complaining or arguing. Like when you try and come up with some excuse for why you hubcapped and got shot in the face, instead of just owning up to loss of SA. Look I'm not ardently against you getting premium pay, but I would not burn any negotiating capitol on reservist getting it when they don't fly a full delta schedule, and I agree with the company that it's a little silly to pay premium to folks that don't commit wholly to fulfilling said schedule.
Green slips aren't paid for committing to fulfill a schedule (see GS on reserve, which you can get without ever flying again in the month). They are paid to help the company get out of a pickle. Mil leave-takers can do that just as well as pure civilian pilots. |
Originally Posted by Stryder
(Post 2276938)
Thanks.
F. Rotation Guarantee 1. After completion of line adjustment, a regular pilot who is unable to fly a rotation or portion thereof that originates on his regular line, due to IROPS or an FAR or PWA conflict, will receive pay and credit for the greater of: a. the scheduled credit of such rotation, or b. his accumulated credit for: 1) recovery flying under Section 23 K., or 2) the rerouted rotation flown under Section 23 L. Exception: A pilot who is removed from a rotation due to either of the following IROPS 27 will have no recovery obligation under Section 23 K. 1. 1. FAR 60 -in-168 conflict. So that is me. I checked my time card and it shows me sked 26:37 with 5:15 pay. They removed me from the rest of the trip. Will that change then after I do my turn today and the log stat closes? |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2276951)
The pay will show up after closeout. Your recovery obligation ends 6 hours after your scheduled report.
Exception: A pilot who is removed from a rotation due to either of the following IROPS 27 will have no recovery obligation under Section 23 K. 1. 1. FAR 60 -in-168 conflict. |
Originally Posted by Stryder
(Post 2276958)
I shouldn't have a recovery obligation since i was removed for far limits right? At least that's the way I read it.
Exception: A pilot who is removed from a rotation due to either of the following IROPS 27 will have no recovery obligation under Section 23 K. 1. 1. FAR 60 -in-168 conflict. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2276941)
You're half right. It isn't complaining or arguing, it IS making excuses (which I'm not doing). And if you take a chuck in the face, it's more likely that you didn't have SA...not that you lost it.
Green slips aren't paid for committing to fulfill a schedule (see GS on reserve, which you can get without ever flying again in the month). They are paid to help the company get out of a pickle. Mil leave-takers can do that just as well as pure civilian pilots. |
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