Assuming an ALV of 75 hours, 21 days at the reserve (pre-posted - the only duty I'm advocating crediting) would give credit of 52.5 hours toward the greenslip trigger. The pilot would still have to fly 27.5 hours in the remaining 9 days to reach the trigger. That's an average of just over 3 hours per available day. Without reserve duty, one must average flying 2.66 hours per day to reach the 80 hour trigger on a 30 hour month.

I don't understand why this is so outrageous?

I'm guessing the same reason some would find utilizing strategic sick leave to enhance GS opportunities.

I'm going to suggest to you the same reason I find it unacceptable.

using sick leave....and/or mil leave...to improve ones access to premium flying is in effect taking money out of another line pilots pocket who is unable (or unwilling) to do so....yet is still actually working a full schedule to produce the revenue that enables paying that premium override.

Got it. Sounds like I'm not going to change anyone's mind. As long is military duty is clumped together with strategic sick use, personal drops, vacation, etc., many of you will fear that we military types are just out to take money from your pocket. Frankly, I appreciate the honesty... I have a better understanding of why those on the 4th floor feel justified in harassing us.

its not likely you are dealing with 4th floor types here. and if you are under the impression management has recently arrived at their starchy pov IRT mil reservist....you are entirely misinformed.

like Capt. Scoop....i am a retired reservist. who had to negotiate my service doing things like using my vacation for acdutra cycles.

not because i was a dedicated employee.....but because the pay here was SO BAD i couldnt afford to drop trips....and still pay my bills. even with the reserve money.

if you do not understand what i am trying to explain IRT respecting your fellow line pilots and their economic contributions and earning opportunites.....i would suggest you are harboring an attitude far more suited to the 4th floor than anything said here to try and provide explaination to your questions.

btw.....you might want to appreciate until the recent past....GS flying was ONLY available to lineholders.

and there WAS NO 'batting rotation' for premium flying. so if your fellow line pilots....perhaps before you even were on property.....didnt have the concern for even the most junior among this group.....you would likely have nothing to complain about right now.

and that didnt come from the 4th floor.

Would you mind explaining strategic use of pre posted military leave to enhance opportunities at premium flying? I just don't understand how that would even work. Getting credit for dropped trips with military leave would be one thing, and I don't support that. But essentially just prorating available work days (as is done with vacation) doesn't seem too egregious to me

And as far as access to premium pay goes, the fact that airline pilots leave to do military duty does nothing but enhance premium pay opportunities for everyone else. If you want to make double-duty miserable enough that people leave the military, it will be that many fewer jobs for those waiting to get hired. And I know I sit below dozens if not hundreds of military members on the seniority list, and if they all came back I would get bumped down.

how about you ask a non reservist line pilot how they view your idea?

preferably.....one who is at least one number jr to you. maybe they can explain it more clearly to you.

Questions I posed stand for anyone. My question to you, since you believed I could game the system, is how I would do so. I don't believe getting credit for pre-posted military leave before I'm awarded a schedule enhances my opportunities at premium pay flying.

Suppose you are senior in category this coming summer. Everybody on the property that has been hired in the last 5 years will be waaaaaaay more senior than they were this time last year. You prepost 2 weeks in July for your mil leave. In weeks 3 and 4, you bid 2 Rome trips and put one of them on the swap board. It's gone by the time the electrons reach your eyes. You greenslip because your mil leave time then counts?

How about combine it with vacation? A week of vacation, and a week of mil leave will put you near the trigger.

I am sure there are other ways but those are two easy ones right off the top of my head.

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This is precisely the "entitlement" attitude I was referring to in an earlier post.

You think it is fair to non-military Delta pilots that you want CREDIT for LEAVE days you are NOT AT DELTA while you get full pay and benefits from Uncle Sam? Really?

Executive Summary --> "Credit" for "Leave" days?? YGBSM.

If I personal drop trips to generate my own leave days, I do NOT expect Delta to give me "Credit" for those days. BECAUSE I WON'T BE AT DELTA WORK. (Well, and also because I don't feel entitled)

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