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I finished my LOE check and it appears I will not get OE on my pre posted shadow bid days. And now next month my schedule (reserve line) just changed to NOE for the entire month. I placed my X days on days I want off like Thanksgiving. My question is do the OE planners have to honor my X days after my shadow period ends? And what is my phone responsibility on X days while NOE?
Thanks in advance!

Farmlover

10-20-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 3312078)

I believe they can do whatever they would like
but I think you get some pb days

Bucking Bar

10-20-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3310850)

I failed my initial ATP checkride in a freaking Seminole of all things. DME Arcing with the turn 10, twist 10 was my nemesis.. I'd always done it with an RMI (instrument training in the Military, and anything I've done IFR with civilian wise had one)

Hired by Delta 3 years later. Between that and Delta, I did get 3 type ratings and pass my ATP in conjunction with my 737 type.

Everyone screws up. Some worse than others. Learn from it and learn how to explain how you learned from it. And, if at all possible, teach others to make new, different bonehead mistakes and not repeat yours.

Had OC Thompson (hope he rots in hell) give me an off airway hold South on the 160 radial off an intersection defined by a NDB radial and a radial off the CHA VOR. The old Cessna ARC (aluminum) contactors failed in the hold. Re racked the f'kn radio in the hold, looked at him through the foggles and dared the SOB to pink slip me.

Old school checkrides included the risk of being pushed out of a Navy Flying Club (aka POS) aircraft at 4000 feet. The NTSb would have found the probable cause "an unfortunate accident."

The M'fer passed me.

nene	10-20-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 3312078)

They attempt to honor any days identified in ICREW as OE Leave requests, but other than that, they ignore your PBS awarded on/off days for reserve, but as farm lover said, you do get payback days pushed along for any days you worked that should have been off.

20Fathoms

10-20-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 3312078)

That would make sense wouldn’t it? Unfortunately the planners will cackle evilly and remind us that when we put in an AE preference different from our current BES, we certify that we have literally nothing going on in our lives in the next 210-365 days. It’s atrocious and needs to be fixed in our next contract.

fishforfun

10-20-2021 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hookshot123 (Post 3312078)

X days mean nothing when it comes to scheduling OE. But, if they do schedule OE over X days you get them back as PB days. Our AE/OE system really is terrible.

TED74

10-21-2021 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3312184)

Unfortunately the planners will cackle evilly and remind us that when we put in an AE preference different from our current BES, we certify that we have literally nothing going on in our lives in the next 210-365 days.

We also certify that we waive all privileges of seniority for the same time period…

hookshot123

10-21-2021 04:05 AM

NOE

Thanks for the answers on NOE.

I guess I might as well put all my X days at the end of the month and maybe get some PB days out of it.

beernutt

10-21-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3312096)

…defined by a NDB radial.

NDBs use bearings, not radials. You’re lucky he didn’t bust you for improper nomenclature. Old school examiners were hardasses.

Nerd hat off, I’m still scarred by my type ride in the airplane when the DPE didn’t like my NDB approach where I stopped the descent 30’ above MDA and held it there. Jetstream 3100, 2am, hand flown (naturally, because there’s no autopilot in a Jetstream) into KEVV on a high speed layover.
He said one day I might need that 30’ to get in instead of going around. No pink slip, just a redo.

For everyone born after 1980 -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...pace_Jetstream
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-directional_beacon

jaxsurf

10-21-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by beernutt (Post 3312367)

He said one day I might need that 30’ to get in instead of going around. No pink slip, just a redo.

What a tool. Yeah maybe someday, but not today where if I dip below that altitude it’s an automatic down :rolleyes:

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