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Phoenix01 10-13-2021 04:26 PM

Hiring question
 
Has DL ever hired anyone OTS with a 121 failure? Busted my initial ride at my regional several years ago,
passed 2 days later . Also have a single failure from primary training over 10 years ago. I believe I have a “strong” app otherwise.

WIPilot 10-13-2021 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix01 (Post 3308728)
Has DL ever hired anyone OTS with a 121 failure? Busted my initial ride at my regional several years ago,
passed 2 days later . Also have a single failure from primary training over 10 years ago. I believe I have a “strong” app otherwise.

Easily will say yes to this. With the interview it’s more about what you learned from it and how you made sure it didn’t happen again. Always take responsibility no matter what happened.

Myfingershurt 10-13-2021 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix01 (Post 3308728)
Has DL ever hired anyone OTS with a 121 failure? Busted my initial ride at my regional several years ago,
passed 2 days later . Also have a single failure from primary training over 10 years ago. I believe I have a “strong” app otherwise.

Man, i got every kinda failure there is, part 61, part 121 (transition and pc), i still work here. If you get the interview just don’t get defensive when they ask you about them.

theUpsideDown 10-13-2021 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix01 (Post 3308728)
Has DL ever hired anyone OTS with a 121 failure? Busted my initial ride at my regional several years ago,
passed 2 days later . Also have a single failure from primary training over 10 years ago. I believe I have a “strong” app otherwise.

Don't be defensive about it when asked, HR and people in general have zero patience for the "never failed nothing" crowd. Everyone has been a bonehead or screwed up, it's the people that can't admit it or blame others that really twist HRs nipples.

tennisguru 10-14-2021 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 3308803)
Don't be defensive about it when asked, HR and people in general have zero patience for the "never failed nothing" crowd. Everyone has been a bonehead or screwed up, it's the people that can't admit it or blame others that really twist HRs nipples.

I'm one of those who has never failed any part of any checkride since I started flying. I'm sure there are a decent number of people out there in the same boat, and it did come up in the interview. While it is a bullet point that I am very proud of, you absolutely cannot come off as cocky and arrogant about it in the interview. First I said that I put a lot of time and effort into preparing for each checkride. I said that every pilot is going to have days where they're a little off, but that I was fortunate that so far my off days haven't coincided with my checkride days. They then asked how I felt I would handle it if I did fail a checkride. Can't remember exactly how I answered but it followed the same standard line of go back over what I did wrong, take it as a chance to learn and correct my mistakes, work hard to improve my weak areas, etc etc.

Trip7 10-15-2021 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Phoenix01 (Post 3308728)
Has DL ever hired anyone OTS with a 121 failure? Busted my initial ride at my regional several years ago,

passed 2 days later . Also have a single failure from primary training over 10 years ago. I believe I have a “strong” app otherwise.

This is not an issue at all. A complete program failure would be more of a red flag but a simple check ride bust is no problem as long as there isn't a pattern

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Trip7 10-15-2021 07:43 AM

Delta just announced a pretty big expansion of flying into PTY. Must be a pretty significant increase in demand from tourists/expats there.

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m3113n1a1 10-15-2021 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3309709)
This is not an issue at all. A complete program failure would be more of a red flag but a simple check ride bust is no problem as long as there isn't a pattern

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Yep, my sim partner at a regional busted his type ride then passed it on the recheck. He was hired at Delta a few years later.

Gone Flying 10-15-2021 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3309713)
Delta just announced a pretty big expansion of flying into PTY. Must be a pretty significant increase in demand from tourists/expats there.

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definitely good to see, especially thought the MCO route was a good sign. Hopefully they will see enough demand from MCO/LAX to increase the frequency beyond 1 day/week

CX500T 10-18-2021 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3309719)
Yep, my sim partner at a regional busted his type ride then passed it on the recheck. He was hired at Delta a few years later.

I failed my initial ATP checkride in a freaking Seminole of all things. DME Arcing with the turn 10, twist 10 was my nemesis.. I'd always done it with an RMI (instrument training in the Military, and anything I've done IFR with civilian wise had one)

Hired by Delta 3 years later. Between that and Delta, I did get 3 type ratings and pass my ATP in conjunction with my 737 type.

Everyone screws up. Some worse than others. Learn from it and learn how to explain how you learned from it. And, if at all possible, teach others to make new, different bonehead mistakes and not repeat yours.


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