Well ppl need to ask the correct question. It is easy to get around a lot of the questions asked. It needs to be asked correctly.

They are stating no 100 seat jet. What if the 195 was flown at 95 seats. Are you getting an honest answer to what you asked? Yes, but it was not what you intended to ask. So when you call your reps, ask the correct questions.

AKA, the reps we elected will dodge our questions if given the chance.

I am under no illusion that Moak would fight to keep the 100 seat market at mainline.

Thanks. :)

Time to start reading the new contract. So much to learn. :o

Obviously from the Joey Chitwood school of aviation!

Heyas,

Got off the phone with my rep.

The word is that the company never came to the union asking about the 195 (I asked specifically about this AC, not a particular seat number) in this or any other scenario. The question was asked a number of different ways, and verified by two different tailed MEC officers (red-tail/blue-tail).

The VERY interesting thing was the outpouring of calls/emails to the MEC on this subject. I think the message was sent very effectively, and this particular technique of "issue spin-up" might prove useful in the future.

Something to remember.

Nu

Are we really going to do this again? Some stupid rumor from some anonymous webboard and now the thrashing begins. Pretty soon this rumor will be reposted on the ALPA webboard and then it will be listed as dual sourced. Pretty soon the outrage will start, the emails will fly, and then it will be shown to be nothing but the echo chamber working again. Maybe after the fifth or sixth time this has happened you would think people would figure it out. I guess not.

The negotiators could not "entertain" this idea if they had not briefed the MEC. If they had briefed the MEC it would already be out.

This is just worthless rumor mongering.

Heyas,

I wouldn't call it worthless.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Remember the 170 rumor that turned out to be true?

And we still didn't get a statement of scope policy from Moak. What we got was "the rumor was false".

What we SHOULD have gotten was "not one more seat, not one more plane, not one more pound"

Nu

Thanks for the update Nu. At least they know where many of us stand on this issue. Glad they're hearing us squawk.

I disagree. Whether this was true or not, it proved one thing. ITS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE. I think its great that as soon as any rumblings about scope arise the sleeping giant jumps out of bed. :D

BTW, I dont think you would see this sort of upheaval if we werent accustomed to finding out scope resolutions after the fact....:cool:

I must be in the wrong place - I thought I was on the internet.

:) Scoop