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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
(Post 720001)
Wasn't there something in the PWA that if the AE comes out before SOC announced that it isn't really a joint bid?
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
(Post 720004)
For those of us who are wondering why they are asking people to update their applications, is this bid that you have coming out this week going to be a tell tale answer of what to expect in 2010?
If they leave a lot of DC9B and M88B slots unfilled, that would say something. |
Call your Rep!!!!!!!!!!!
There won't be any hiring at DAL mainline if this rumor is true. Posted on flightinfo.com.
"Spent some time the last two days working with a few union guys and company 4th floor types and this is what concerns me. The company wants to get a 100 seater on property badly. The ideal move is apparently to take the 195s and put them at Compass until the C-Series can be announced probably 3 years from now. The company says to the union it would only be temporarily and that then they would put them at mainline. The thought is that a better option would be available then(the C-series maybe) and for the time they could really take advantage of cost structure at Compass. The union is actually entertaining this idea. They feel that a solution can be negotiated and that these 100 seaters will by DAL's good graces come back over to mainline. Are we all naive enough to think that DALs execs will not find a way to never see a DAL seniority list pilot flying those? I cannot over emphasize the need to write every rep current and recently elected and to make sure they are telling the company NO!!! We all fly with guys who stay so far outta touch with this stuff because they think they are senior enough for it not to matter, but it will. Their quality of life will go down and make no mistake....Delta will furlough all the recent new hires if this happens. Lee Moak must hear your voice and it better be now or else I can guarantee that there will be alot of Delta Pilots without jobs very soon. Get to work guys, spread the word, and be heard!!! " |
Originally Posted by MCDU
(Post 720064)
There won't be any hiring at DAL mainline if this rumor is true.
"Spent some time the last two days working with a few union guys and company 4th floor types and this is what concerns me. The company wants to get a 100 seater on property badly. The ideal move is apparently to take the 195s and put them at Compass until the C-Series can be announced probably 3 years from now. The company says to the union it would only be temporarily and that then they would put them at mainline. The thought is that a better option would be available then(the C-series maybe) and for the time they could really take advantage of cost structure at Compass. The union is actually entertaining this idea. They feel that a solution can be negotiated and that these 100 seaters will by DAL's good graces come back over to mainline. Are we all naive enough to think that DALs execs will not find a way to never see a DAL seniority list pilot flying those? I cannot over emphasize the need to write every rep current and recently elected and to make sure they are telling the company NO!!! We all fly with guys who stay so far outta touch with this stuff because they think they are senior enough for it not to matter, but it will. Their quality of life will go down and make no mistake....Delta will furlough all the recent new hires if this happens. Lee Moak must hear your voice and it better be now or else I can guarantee that there will be alot of Delta Pilots without jobs very soon. Get to work guys, spread the word, and be heard!!! " |
Originally Posted by MCDU
(Post 720064)
There won't be any hiring at DAL mainline if this rumor is true.
"Spent some time the last two days working with a few union guys and company 4th floor types and this is what concerns me. The company wants to get a 100 seater on property badly. The ideal move is apparently to take the 195s and put them at Compass until the C-Series can be announced probably 3 years from now. The company says to the union it would only be temporarily and that then they would put them at mainline. The thought is that a better option would be available then(the C-series maybe) and for the time they could really take advantage of cost structure at Compass. The union is actually entertaining this idea. They feel that a solution can be negotiated and that these 100 seaters will by DAL's good graces come back over to mainline. Are we all naive enough to think that DALs execs will not find a way to never see a DAL seniority list pilot flying those? I cannot over emphasize the need to write every rep current and recently elected and to make sure they are telling the company NO!!! We all fly with guys who stay so far outta touch with this stuff because they think they are senior enough for it not to matter, but it will. Their quality of life will go down and make no mistake....Delta will furlough all the recent new hires if this happens. Lee Moak must hear your voice and it better be now or else I can guarantee that there will be alot of Delta Pilots without jobs very soon. Get to work guys, spread the word, and be heard!!! " Even the union entertaining this idea cannot, should not, and will not be tolerated. Absolutely 100% rediculous. I hope this isn't true... |
Originally Posted by MCDU
(Post 720064)
There won't be any hiring at DAL mainline if this rumor is true.
"Spent some time the last two days working with a few union guys and company 4th floor types and this is what concerns me. The company wants to get a 100 seater on property badly. The ideal move is apparently to take the 195s and put them at Compass until the C-Series can be announced probably 3 years from now. The company says to the union it would only be temporarily and that then they would put them at mainline. The thought is that a better option would be available then(the C-series maybe) and for the time they could really take advantage of cost structure at Compass. The union is actually entertaining this idea. They feel that a solution can be negotiated and that these 100 seaters will by DAL's good graces come back over to mainline. Are we all naive enough to think that DALs execs will not find a way to never see a DAL seniority list pilot flying those? I cannot over emphasize the need to write every rep current and recently elected and to make sure they are telling the company NO!!! We all fly with guys who stay so far outta touch with this stuff because they think they are senior enough for it not to matter, but it will. Their quality of life will go down and make no mistake....Delta will furlough all the recent new hires if this happens. Lee Moak must hear your voice and it better be now or else I can guarantee that there will be alot of Delta Pilots without jobs very soon. Get to work guys, spread the word, and be heard!!! " Source? Otherwise this is just a baaaaad rumor. |
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
(Post 720067)
Dude, if you're going to throw gasoline on a fire at least attribute who the quote came from. If it came from a "friend of a friend" I'd hit the edit button and just type delete in its place.
It's a copy and paste from "FUZZO" on Flightinfo. |
Sorry. It came from flightinfo.
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 720009)
It is when it closes, not when it comes out. I think it will close in January because they want to use a 365 day conversion window due to the DC-9 retirements. I think they have already used their one 365 bid for this year.
This is correct- The january bid from this year was a 12 month conversion, although everyone was converted actually in just over 6 months |
It was put out there by one of the credible posters on FI.
I stated a few weeks ago that this was one of my fears. Our C44 reps and elected reps are saying no way, it would be political suicide, but time will tell. This makes a lot of sense for the company to do this. 175/195 are the same type and it costs no more to have CPS fly it. The response is simple. Our jet, or pilot our contract. You want it flown on their cert fine. But by us at our wages. Wonder what we think of splitting them out now? |
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