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06-28-2017 | 05:21 AM
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You have missed the point entirely. Nobody said you are operating outside the contract. Just because something is legal in the contract does not mean it is a good thing for the pilot group at-large. They can correct me if I'm wrong, but they are suggesting we modify the contract to limit straight pay pickup in order to improve QOL/pay for the majority of DAL pilots even though a few might not see an improvement. Often the union needs to protect us from ourselves.
06-28-2017 | 05:45 AM
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You have missed the point entirely. Nobody said you are operating outside the contract. Just because something is legal in the contract does not mean it is a good thing for the pilot group at-large. They can correct me if I'm wrong, but they are suggesting we modify the contract to limit straight pay pickup in order to improve QOL/pay for the majority of DAL pilots even though a few might not see an improvement. Often the union needs to protect us from ourselves.
06-28-2017 | 06:03 AM
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It's funny that you think green slips increase QOL/pay for a majority of the pilot group when it's really a small minority that benefit from green slips in most categories. Plus it costs the company more in payroll which decreases profits which decreases profit sharing for EVERY pilot come February. Pilots are the biggest bunch of delusional self serving people in the world.
The world, broad brush speaking, is self serving. Pilots are no different in that respect than anyone in your neighborhood. Self loathing isn't very becoming.
06-28-2017 | 06:17 AM
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It's funny that you think green slips increase QOL/pay for a majority of the pilot group when it's really a small minority that benefit from green slips in most categories. Plus it costs the company more in payroll which decreases profits which decreases profit sharing for EVERY pilot come February. Pilots are the biggest bunch of delusional self serving people in the world.
06-28-2017 | 06:54 AM
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06-28-2017 | 07:05 AM
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You have missed the point entirely. Nobody said you are operating outside the contract. Just because something is legal in the contract does not mean it is a good thing for the pilot group at-large. They can correct me if I'm wrong, but they are suggesting we modify the contract to limit straight pay pickup in order to improve QOL/pay for the majority of DAL pilots even though a few might not see an improvement. Often the union needs to protect us from ourselves.
It's funny that you think green slips increase QOL/pay for a majority of the pilot group when it's really a small minority that benefit from green slips in most categories. Plus it costs the company more in payroll which decreases profits which decreases profit sharing for EVERY pilot come February. Pilots are the biggest bunch of delusional self serving people in the world.
But even if I had said that, what an interesting and dumb take you have. Your math is wrong. Total compensation to the pilot group at large is more when pilots earn that money up-front, not when the entire group earns 20% from profit sharing and the company gets 80%.
06-28-2017 | 08:03 AM
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Green slips seem like easy money. My advice to new guys is to never cancel plans with your family to fly a green slip. This job is hard enough on family as is. Family needs to come first on off-days. I have heard pilots talking about skipping trick-or-treating with their little kids because that experience isn't worth the $8,000 the green slip pays. That's a terrible mindset to get into. Another one I've heard is the $6,000 beer that the pilot just drank making them unable to accept a GS with an immediate report time.
06-28-2017 | 10:43 AM
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06-28-2017 | 05:24 PM
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[QUOTE=sailingfun;2386571]To a extent. There is a crossover point where it's better to add pilots. There are issues beyond straight cost. The company has increased staffing in some categories as a result.[/QUOTE
Any you can be sure the company knows those costs down to a nickel.
Any you can be sure the company knows those costs down to a nickel.
06-28-2017 | 06:33 PM
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Green slips seem like easy money. My advice to new guys is to never cancel plans with your family to fly a green slip. This job is hard enough on family as is. Family needs to come first on off-days. I have heard pilots talking about skipping trick-or-treating with their little kids because that experience isn't worth the $8,000 the green slip pays. That's a terrible mindset to get into. Another one I've heard is the $6,000 beer that the pilot just drank making them unable to accept a GS with an immediate report time.
Now Xmas, Graduation, Birthdays etc might be a different story
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