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NuGuy 12-03-2009 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 720560)
If this is a problem...why can't it be fixed?

Heyas Iceman,

What are you willing to give up to have it fixed?

Nu

forgot to bid 12-03-2009 02:40 PM

Touche Nu.

What am I willing to give up? 9 hour overnights following a 5 leg day.

If not that then I'm willing to give up downtown overnights in crappy/dangerous downtowns.

If not that Nu, then I'm willing to give up paper charts.

If not tha

acl65pilot 12-03-2009 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 720651)
I think you give the company way too much credit for designing a deception strategy on this issue. Listen to Hank Halter's presentation yesterday at the investor's conference. All he talked about was not having obligations to buy jets and paying down the debt. The company has already decided on a 100 seat jet and it's the MD-90. They can get 4 of them for the same cost as 1 E-195 and they already fit into the fleet. I know it has 160 seats, but at those costs they can afford to fly it around at 60% load factor. More likely, they will use it to backfill A-319 flying out of NWA hubs and put the A-319's into smaller markets to fill the DC-9 retirements.

After what is happening to the 50 seat market, which leasing company would be so stupid as to buy a bunch of brand new E-195's just so Delta can put them on a short lease? These people are greedy but not stupid. How many leasing companies are now getting stuck with 50 seat white elephants? Fool me once..........we won't get fooled again, or something like that. (just a joke, don't get all political on me)

If Delta wants a bunch of those jets they are going to have to pony up to buy them or assume a capital lease. I am not seeing that, not for that jet.

You can think that, but I grew up in a household where I got to see first hand how executives think. Simply put, Embraer has given RJET 60 month leases, and has come close for us. They want our business and would be willing to do it for a few guarantees.

I agree with the second part on how they will use them but DAL needs a smaller jet that can feed us. The 90 works great to fill the gap in the current markets that the 9/319 fly as you stated, but we need a 100 seat jet that will be able to serve the 50 seat markets with less frequency. After all LGA is slot restricted.

The MD-90 is a great jet, but as you know DAL historically likes to price seats to sell at the last moment. If they can sit there are not hit the dump switch to the on-line ticket brokers, they may have half a chance with those jets acting like 100 seats jets. Past actions show that they will dump excess seats 12-24 hrs out, and our customers have become accustom to it. Sit tight and that plan may work.

NuGuy 12-03-2009 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 720682)
Touche Nu.

What am I willing to give up? 9 hour overnights following a 5 leg day.

If not that then I'm willing to give up downtown overnights in crappy/dangerous downtowns.

If not that Nu, then I'm willing to give up paper charts.

If not tha

Heya FtB,

Just trying to make a point, in my normal, subtle fashion.

The guys who REALLY think like this will always be an obstacle we don't need.

But beyond that, there are a LOT of process changes that could be made, how we bid, how we change our schedules, how we do a lot of things, but there is simply no mechanism in place for line pilot input. No "tiger teams", no think tanks or heck, not even any focus groups.

There is a tremendous amount of bureaucratic inertia, both on the company side, and the ALPA side.

Nu

iceman49 12-03-2009 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 720704)
Heya FtB,

Just trying to make a point, in my normal, subtle fashion.

The guys who REALLY think like this will always be an obstacle we don't need.

But beyond that, there are a LOT of process changes that could be made, how we bid, how we change our schedules, how we do a lot of things, but there is simply no mechanism in place for line pilot input. No "tiger teams", no think tanks or heck, not even any focus groups.

There is a tremendous amount of bureaucratic inertia, both on the company side, and the ALPA side.

Nu

Completely agree....it would just be nice to come into the 21rst century..Nu did you catch in Orientation 2 who was claiming credit for the IT stuff?

acl65pilot 12-03-2009 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 720729)
Completely agree....it would just be nice to come into the 21rst century..Nu did you catch in Orientation 2 who was claiming credit for the IT stuff?

Al Gore? ;)

newKnow 12-03-2009 06:02 PM

ACL or anyone else,

Maybe this has been said somewhere. But, with the rumor of the 777's going to DTW, is there a rumor of where they are coming from?

Is the JFK 777 category going to get smaller, or will it be ATL, or both?

dragon 12-03-2009 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 720757)
ACL or anyone else,

Maybe this has been said somewhere. But, with the rumor of the 777's going to DTW, is there a rumor of where they are coming from?

Is the JFK 777 category going to get smaller, or will it be ATL, or both?

They recently posted a bunch of 777 flights from DTW and the replacement of 777 flights from NYC with 747s. The scuttlebutt is they are closing the NYC 777 base.

NuGuy 12-03-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 720729)
Completely agree....it would just be nice to come into the 21rst century..Nu did you catch in Orientation 2 who was claiming credit for the IT stuff?

I did orientation 2 like 3 months ago. All I remember from it was that it was an epic fail of a presentation.

If that's a demonstration of DAL distance learning, then it's going to be a long, long ride to retirement.

Nu

sevenfiveseven 12-03-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 720757)
ACL or anyone else,

Maybe this has been said somewhere. But, with the rumor of the 777's going to DTW, is there a rumor of where they are coming from?

Is the JFK 777 category going to get smaller, or will it be ATL, or both?

The JFK 777 category will get very small.........


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