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Gunfighter 10-24-2017 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2453344)
White slip pick up on PCS page. Can’t swap, just pickup.

And you can do it in advance. I just picked one up in November.

You CAN swap for a Q trip if the trip you are dropping is on days with adequate reserve coverage.

Gunfighter 10-24-2017 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jp8burner (Post 2452716)
Unsolicited opinion: just don’t bring your bag down. I used to bring my bag down until the rampers destroyed my bag on trip. It was clearly intentional, and no, I didn’t give them any reason to do that. Ever since I have no guilt about getting onboard early enough to get it in an overhead. Never an issue.

I always have a large lithium Anker in my suitcase, so it can't go in the cargo bin.:D

full of luv 10-24-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Scooter432 (Post 2453334)
Can anyone teach me how bidding on a Q trip works? I’m a week or so out but do I just put in a White slip request for it? Assigned the day before typically correct? Thanks for any info

A lot of the newer pilots don't know about the swap board and/or don't realize that if their trying to PD a trip without coverage and it languishes as a Q trip that simply listing said trip on the swap board may allow many to pick it up because on the swap board they are not limited by ALV restrictions as white slips are.

Sometimes an email or text to the pilot trying to drop the trip can inform them of this information.

GogglesPisano 10-24-2017 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2453429)
A lot of the newer pilots don't know about the swap board .

When I was an FO I flew with senior captains who never heard of the swapboard.

CheapTrick 10-24-2017 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2453482)
When I was an FO I flew with senior captains who never heard of the swapboard.

Way back in the day, I flew with a Captain that didn't know how to white slip or what a white slip was. He had been on the DC9 and then M88 and barely lived in the airline world. No cell phone. Just flew his schedule and lived his life. I kind of admired him.

BobZ 10-24-2017 10:04 AM

Always made it habit to not discuss schedule strategies wth anyone senior to me. :)

DALMD88FO 10-24-2017 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2453423)
You CAN swap for a Q trip if the trip you are dropping is on days with adequate reserve coverage.

The Q is a qualified personal drop. It means someone is trying to drop the trip and it's run through a PCS and because of reserve coverage it didn't drop. You cannot swap for the trip because reserve coverage won't allow it. If you happened to get one on a swap it was it dropped into open time, meaning it was no longer a Q rotation, then you got the swap, like you said adequate reserve coverage.

Omar 111 10-24-2017 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2453517)
The Q is a qualified personal drop. It means someone is trying to drop the trip and it's run through a PCS and because of reserve coverage it didn't drop. You cannot swap for the trip because reserve coverage won't allow it. If you happened to get one on a swap it was it dropped into open time, meaning it was no longer a Q rotation, then you got the swap, like you said adequate reserve coverage.

Incorrect. If every day of the trip you are trying to swap has sufficient reserve coverage, the swap will go through. Doesn't matter what the Q trip coverage is. See 23 I.14

DALMD88FO 10-24-2017 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Omar 111 (Post 2453600)
Incorrect. If every day of the trip you are trying to swap has sufficient reserve coverage, the swap will go through. Doesn't matter what the Q trip coverage is. See 23 I.14

Ok, unless something has changed, during a PCS run the computer looks at APD's, then PD's, then swap with the pot. The trip is labeled as Q because the pilot is trying to personal drop it and there is insufficient coverage.

If there is sufficient reserve coverage the Q trip will drop into open time as a personal drop and yes the swap will go through because the trip is now available in open time. I see the reference you posted in the contract.

I think we are all saying the same thing in the fact that the reserve coverage plays a part.

Omar 111 10-24-2017 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2453607)
Ok, unless something has changed, during a PCS run the computer looks at APD's, then PD's, then swap with the pot. The trip is labeled as Q because the pilot is trying to personal drop it and there is insufficient coverage.

If there is sufficient reserve coverage the Q trip will drop into open time as a personal drop and yes the swap will go through because the trip is now available in open time. I see the reference you posted in the contract.

I think we are all saying the same thing in the fact that the reserve coverage plays a part.

No, that's not what I'm saying. The reserve coverage only matters for the trip that is currently on your schedule. The trip you want to pick up does not need to be dropped off the current pilot's schedule. You are able to swap for it because there is sufficient reserve coverage for you to actually PD the trip you currently own(had you chosen that route) and swap for the Q trip.


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