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Check Essential 06-05-2015 05:58 AM

Its kind of fitting that one of the guys who made this L&G thread what it is today is now probably going to be the deciding vote on a document that will determine all of our fates for many years to come.

We're not going to see another negotiating environment like this for a long long time. Maybe never.

What we do on this contract is going to determine the career trajectory for a lot of pilots.

Not me so much. I'm old.
acl65pilot is young. I think its appropriate that the future generation have a lot of influence.

This is going to be a tough call. Connect the dots for us acl.

boog123 06-05-2015 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1896210)

This is going to be a tough call. Connect the dots for us acl.

It's not a tough call, AT ALL! We will know shortly if certain reps will do what is obviously best for the pilot group or are vulnerable to the arm twisting, shenanigans of the entrenched insiders.

I am hoping they will show some internal fortitude, but am not encouraged
.

Hawaii50 06-05-2015 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1896230)
It's not a tough call, AT ALL! We will know shortly if certain reps will do what is obviously best for the pilot group or are vulnerable to the arm twisting, shenanigans of the entrenched insiders.

I am hoping they will show some internal fortitude, but am not encouraged
.

How would you know that before even seeing the product?

GunshipGuy 06-05-2015 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by siuflightboy (Post 1895943)
With this $30mil grievance payout, do you think we could just have a drawing and ten random pilots get to retire early with $3mil a piece? This sounds better to me than just getting $30mil/12600 pilots, or however the numbers work out.

ALPA would do the drawing behind closed doors in the interest of a thorough and exhaustive process to ensure the best results possible. Then Steve Dickson would some how have his name picked four out of ten times.

DogWhisperer 06-05-2015 07:04 AM

Time to dust off a few from yesteryear...hope that I get the chance to ammend these to an changed outcome...

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps71b4d62b.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...SugarPlums.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...heBeholder.jpg

D Mantooth 06-05-2015 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1896230)
It's not a tough call, AT ALL! We will know shortly if certain reps will do what is obviously best for the pilot group or are vulnerable to the arm twisting, shenanigans of the entrenched insiders.

I am hoping they will show some internal fortitude, but am not encouraged
.

Boog, you wrote this in 2012:


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1212612)

My prediction: In 3 years, a lot less DAL pilots, stagnation, w2's near what they are today for most pilots and a lot of "we didn't think they would do that"

With respect, you (and the reps who you said told you this) were incorrect.

Isn't it possible that at least some of the "insiders" might be right every once in a while?

Can we at least read the TA before we (predictably) decide that it sucks, the sky is falling, and every yes voter is a wuss?

Raging white 06-05-2015 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1896310)
Boog, you wrote this in 2012:



With respect, you (and the reps who you said told you this) were incorrect.

Isn't it possible that at least some of the "insiders" might be right every once in a while?

Can we at least read the TA before we (predictably) decide that it sucks, the sky is falling, and every yes voter is a wuss?

Absolutely.
And if it sucks, can you come back here and say just that? That maybe the "outsiders" might just be right once in a while?
Let's hope that Donatelli's published promise of "historic" is kept.

sailingfun 06-05-2015 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Raging white (Post 1896336)
Absolutely.
And if it sucks, can you come back here and say just that? That maybe the "outsiders" might just be right once in a while?
Let's hope that Donatelli's published promise of "historic" is kept.

If it sucks you vote no!

D Mantooth 06-05-2015 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Raging white (Post 1896336)
Absolutely.
And if it sucks, can you come back here and say just that? That maybe the "outsiders" might just be right once in a while?
Let's hope that Donatelli's published promise of "historic" is kept.

Sure. That's fair.

For the record, I supported c2012 and I think it worked out well for our pilot group. I have no regrets.

GBU-24 06-05-2015 08:44 AM

JV Payout
 
With the JV payout...has the company come into compliance with the agreement?


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