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maddogmax 06-07-2015 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1897431)
Thanks, appreciate that. But, to be fair.....you didn't know what you were in for till it was too late:D

Seriously, what a great trip.....even if I was the only one of the four of us without Global Entry in Boston:eek:

Ferd

All true, but a least we waited for you!

Chuck Essential 06-07-2015 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1897470)
This place is like a car crash. You really don't want to look but you have to.

It's much more like watching "Dumb and Dumber."

Carl Spackler 06-07-2015 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chuck Essential (Post 1897544)
It's much more like watching "Dumb and Dumber."

What's really dumb is people like you who start names like Chuck Essential when we have a solid poster here already named Check Essential.

Really lame dude.

Carl

qball 06-07-2015 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1897409)
Please post where the Council 1 reps clarified.

Carl

In the time I was there I never heard any such clarification. The "company shopping cart full, pilot cart not so much" was repeated a few times. If there was any clarification to the contrary...I never heard it.

Carl Spackler 06-07-2015 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 1897661)
In the time I was there I never heard any such clarification. The "company shopping cart full, pilot cart not so much" was repeated a few times. If there was any clarification to the contrary...I never heard it.

Maybe Karnak will post where the Council 1 reps said that.

Karnak?

Carl

flyallnite 06-07-2015 07:48 AM

It's beginning to sound as if the TA that will be discussed by the MEC this week represents a very clear failure of 'proactive engagement' with the company. My hope is that if it doesn't live up to the expectations outlined in the contract survey, that the MEC will not provide it to the membership for ratification. The whole point of the MEC reviewing it is to make sure it passes muster, not to just rubber stamp for a general vote- regardless of the content.

If the company is indeed 'sitting on their wallets', then I think that we need to take a long and hard look at the process by which this 'last, best offer' came about, and consider making changes to the way we as pilots approach sec. 6 negotiations. I don't think we've ever been in a better position to 'wait it out' and in the meantime revise our strategy for obtaining our rightful share of our labors, now and going forward.

orvil 06-07-2015 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1897674)
It's beginning to sound as if the TA that will be discussed by the MEC this week represents a very clear failure of 'proactive engagement' with the company. My hope is that if it doesn't live up to the expectations outlined in the contract survey, that the MEC will not provide it to the membership for ratification. The whole point of the MEC reviewing it is to make sure it passes muster, not to just rubber stamp for a general vote- regardless of the content.

If the company is indeed 'sitting on their wallets', then I think that we need to take a long and hard look at the process by which this 'last, best offer' came about, and consider making changes to the way we as pilots approach sec. 6 negotiations. I don't think we've ever been in a better position to 'wait it out' and in the meantime revise our strategy for obtaining our rightful share of our labors, now and going forward.

I agree with this.

cni187 06-07-2015 09:21 AM

Love the patience email from DALPA



Reminded me of this

Going2Baja 06-07-2015 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1897717)
Love the patience email from DALPA



Reminded me of this

I consider it an insult. REALLY DALPA, you think we don't know that you have worked on this? The NC obviously thinks this meets the wishes of the pilot group. And I would imagine that the MEC knew the basics before they agreed to call it a TA. If it is as big of a turd as we are reading what does this say about the MEC or the NC? I'm just beyond shocked that we're where we're at right now. 6 months early and this should be at least a Ground Rule Double if not a Home Run, but it's sound much more like a Foul.

Baja.

Purple Drank 06-07-2015 10:27 AM

More like bases loaded, no outs...hit into a triple play.


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