Originally Posted by Chuck Essential (Post 1897544)

It's much more like watching "Dumb and Dumber."

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1897674)

It's beginning to sound as if the TA that will be discussed by the MEC this week represents a very clear failure of 'proactive engagement' with the company. My hope is that if it doesn't live up to the expectations outlined in the contract survey, that the MEC will not provide it to the membership for ratification. The whole point of the MEC reviewing it is to make sure it passes muster, not to just rubber stamp for a general vote- regardless of the content.

If the company is indeed 'sitting on their wallets', then I think that we need to take a long and hard look at the process by which this 'last, best offer' came about, and consider making changes to the way we as pilots approach sec. 6 negotiations. I don't think we've ever been in a better position to 'wait it out' and in the meantime revise our strategy for obtaining our rightful share of our labors, now and going forward.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1897783)

You're right. But the reason I think this happened is C2012. I think Campbell and the other Ford & Harrison corporate psychologists were stunned when C2012 passed 62-38. In their minds, they left way too much on the table for us. This time they're floating a serious piece of junk low ball offer to see if we'll grab it again because it's early.

Carl

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1897789)

No question that impacted the current negotiations. So the question becomes, how do we achieve historic? Clearly this method isn't working.

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1897940)

Yeah, I know! ....the FDX and SWA pilots have been using a different method for the last few years and are achieving spectacular results. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1897943)

Our survey was clear, DO NOT REDUCE OUR PROFIT SHARING.



Every yes voter on the MEC must be recalled.



This TA is worse than C2012.

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1897943)

Our survey was clear, DO NOT REDUCE OUR PROFIT SHARING.

Every yes voter on the MEC must be recalled.

This TA is worse than C2012.

Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1897943)

Our survey was clear, DO NOT REDUCE OUR PROFIT SHARING.

Every yes voter on the MEC must be recalled.

This TA is worse than C2012.

Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1897951)

Did someone publish the survey results?

And the TA?

Seriously. If we are at a recall stage, already, you have read the entire TA...right?