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sailingfun 10-31-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2458303)
Only on qualified ga income. If you work off site in non tax state its not ga income. or if u rotate for line flying to domicile othr than atl...in which case you revert to rla state tax liability and again its not qualified ga income.

Under the law for transportation workers if you can determine any one state where you do 51% or more of your work you pay state income tax in that state. GA went after the training department in the nineties. They won.

BobZ 10-31-2017 05:12 PM

We have previously had this discussion. And you are still uninformed on the facts.

I was there. And personally involved. As a delta ip, an impacted tax payer, and as part of the organized group to deal with ga when our 'union' cut us loose.

The ga case had nothing to do with a rla legal argument other than to nullify the wide area income production exemption. Which then disqualified training dept pilots as protected rla workers.

The states prevailing legal argument was based on source income. Iow income produced in a fixed geographic location. I.e. a simulator bolted to the ground in atl.

The state selected a single m88 ip and made an initial run at tax liability based on residency. I understand it didnt 'fly'.

Ther is no double jeopardy in tax matters....so ga went back to court and argued source income from a fixed geographic location.

The judge agreed. The state i understand then handed this m88 ip a felony fraud indictment.

Delta was a cooperative witness providing ga all ip personal data. I believe as a means to mitigate the corp liability for failing to begin witholding from employees assigned to non-operations GO departments. As was required by the state.

This is why when delta infomed me of their surrendering my personal data to ga i made the call. As i explained to the states attorney i actually have paid a state tax liability 50% more than ga...her response was..."we dont care...you have defrauded the state of tax revenue...and we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law."

They already had the case law established.

Urban legend? She was the wife of a delta pilot.

Now. Since dalpa never saw a need to have training in the pwa...we were cut loose.

Until....somehow ga found out our mec chair...who made his income in a chair in the mec office in atlanta.....wth a home in ptc and kids and wife in ptc....was claiming he lived in FL and wasnt paying ga taxes.

Unless you are in a operations departmrnt doing the work of a line pilot for state tax planning... you are not a rla worker. Your tax liability is determined by where you produce the income. And the tax law of the state where you are doing so.

Dont complain...athletes and entertainers state tax problems take entire cpa firms to manage.

gloopy 11-01-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2458303)
Only on qualified ga income. If you work off site in non tax state its not ga income. or if u rotate for line flying to domicile othr than atl...in which case you revert to rla state tax liability and again its not qualified ga income.

Why would an ATL fly month be GA taxed unless you live there? Wouldn't the existing transport worker laws that cover commuters etc apply?

BobZ 11-01-2017 10:03 AM

If you are doing the work of a line pilot in an operations department than yes you apply rla state tax conventions.

If you live in ga and fly the month in atl you pay ga tax on that income.

If you fly the month in atl and do not live in ga state tax liability for your state of residence apply.

I think with rare exception that old saw abt an attorney being his own client goes double for pilots and taxes.

As a pilot i suggest filing a tax return in any state one engages in economic activity. Even if you do not have a tax liability.

It is the failure to file that triggers the punative damages. And facilitates the charge of criminal fraud.

BobZ 11-01-2017 10:34 AM

Back to the larger issue. Have had occasion to fly with newer pilots and try to highlight for them the generational turnover that is coming.

And the tremendous possibilities that come with such a process.

Strategic thinking about ones carreer is essential. Some new pilot today is going to end up as svp flt ops...or fleet captain...or clca...cpo...and yes, mec chair....and maybe evrn national chair.

If you are so inclined to seek opportunity beyond the cockpit the time to start thinking about it is now.

I would recommend the training experience to any line pilot with an interest. It will be a net positive return on your efforts....and may lead you someplace far beyond an E period new hire event. :)

Denny Crane 11-01-2017 11:35 AM

Quick question. Are drinks free in EC?

Denny

crewdawg 11-01-2017 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2458820)
Quick question. Are drinks free in EC?

Denny

Last time I was up there, it was 1 free drink.

Denny Crane 11-01-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2458823)
Last time I was up there, it was 1 free drink.

That would be nice. I’m DHing home right now. Got a couple hours to go. Thanks for the quick answer.

Denny

tunes 11-01-2017 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2458825)
That would be nice. I’m DHing home right now. Got a couple hours to go. Thanks for the quick answer.

Denny

you can always ring your call button for more! it's not a limit of 1.

Seaslap8 11-02-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2458364)
We have previously had this discussion. And you are still uninformed on the facts.

I was there. And personally involved. As a delta ip, an impacted tax payer, and as part of the organized group to deal with ga when our 'union' cut us loose.

The ga case had nothing to do with a rla legal argument other than to nullify the wide area income production exemption. Which then disqualified training dept pilots as protected rla workers.

The states prevailing legal argument was based on source income. Iow income produced in a fixed geographic location. I.e. a simulator bolted to the ground in atl.

The state selected a single m88 ip and made an initial run at tax liability based on residency. I understand it didnt 'fly'.

Ther is no double jeopardy in tax matters....so ga went back to court and argued source income from a fixed geographic location.

The judge agreed. The state i understand then handed this m88 ip a felony fraud indictment.

Delta was a cooperative witness providing ga all ip personal data. I believe as a means to mitigate the corp liability for failing to begin witholding from employees assigned to non-operations GO departments. As was required by the state.

This is why when delta infomed me of their surrendering my personal data to ga i made the call. As i explained to the states attorney i actually have paid a state tax liability 50% more than ga...her response was..."we dont care...you have defrauded the state of tax revenue...and we will prosecute you to the full extent of the law."

They already had the case law established.

Urban legend? She was the wife of a delta pilot.

Now. Since dalpa never saw a need to have training in the pwa...we were cut loose.

Until....somehow ga found out our mec chair...who made his income in a chair in the mec office in atlanta.....wth a home in ptc and kids and wife in ptc....was claiming he lived in FL and wasnt paying ga taxes.

Unless you are in a operations departmrnt doing the work of a line pilot for state tax planning... you are not a rla worker. Your tax liability is determined by where you produce the income. And the tax law of the state where you are doing so.

Dont complain...athletes and entertainers state tax problems take entire cpa firms to manage.

Forgive me as I'm a bit slow, but it sounds like you actually confirm what he posted...Commuting SLIs will have to pay GA tax on all work conducted on VA Avenue, right?


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