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Do we get deadhead pay if we drive between airports for a layover? For example, I spent over two hours in the van going between LAX-ONT. Flew into LAX, layover in ONT, flew out of ONT the next day.

Section 8 in the contract. You get 37.50.

DELTAFO

07-30-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2645489)

Section 8 in the contract. You get 37.50 if it was between flights. Nothing if it was to the layover.

Exception one: Surface transportation to or from an airport for the sole purpose of lodging is not a deadhead.

Ok thanks. This made me unsure:

“Deadhead” means the surface or air transportation of a pilot between airports at the instruction of the Company.
Exception one: Surface transportation to or from an airport for the sole purpose of lodging is not a deadhead.

I haven't ever been paid it on a SFO-SJC van ride with a layover in between which shows a $25 payment.

sailingfun

07-30-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2645491)

I read that and am a bit unsure. I think however it means going to a regular layover hotel. Does your time card say anything?

FL370esq

07-30-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2645489)

Section 8 in the contract. You get 37.50.

Nope....Surface DH only applies flying leg to flying leg. Sounds like you went to a layover so no joy. It is a classic company move in FLL/MIA, SFO/SJC/OAK and EWR/JFK/LGA.

m3113n1a1

07-30-2018 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2645521)

Nope....Surface DH only applies flying leg to flying leg. Sounds like you went to a layover so no joy. It is a classic company move in FLL/MIA, SFO/SJC/OAK and EWR/JFK/LGA.

Wow, I didn't know this... I was always wondering why I could never find the pay!

Hank Kingsley

07-30-2018 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2645521)

Nope....Surface DH only applies flying leg to flying leg. Sounds like you went to a layover so no joy. It is a classic company move in FLL/MIA, SFO/SJC/OAK and EWR/JFK/LGA.

You'll get nothing and like it. Classic!

hockeypilot44

07-30-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2645485)

Do we get deadhead pay if we drive between airports for a layover? For example, I spent over two hours in the van going between LAX-ONT. Flew into LAX, layover in ONT, flew out of ONT the next day.

No. If you did, company wouldn’t do it.

Han Solo

07-31-2018 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2645725)

No. If you did, company wouldn’t do it.

Exactly.

My last trip had 3 of these, after each layover we never left from the airport from where we arrived. HOU-IAH, SJC-SFO, and SFO-SJC. If you include the 40 minutes we had to wait for the SJC-SFO van (we'll be there in 5 minutes, really...) I had over 4 hours of unpaid van time on my last trip. SUCK! Don't get me wrong; I'm on RES and didn't make guarantee so I didn't lose a dime, but it still sucked seeing that 13:30 layover turn into 10:50. As a line holder that's real money that just disappears into the ether.

sailingfun

07-31-2018 08:44 AM

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...2KUlwUXp73r7N/

Look for ATL to get the new nonstop to Mumbai and at least one other international route next year!

iaflyer

07-31-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2645970)

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...2KUlwUXp73r7N/

Look for ATL to get the new nonstop to Mumbai and at least one other international route next year!

Yes, amazing how Georgia takes care of it's bigger airport user and voila, more international non-stops.

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