Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Line Holder
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What’s the deal with May FO lines? CA’s came out two days ago and we still got nothing.
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Because it would be good for pilots.
I enjoy reading a lot of your posts even if I don’t agree with some of them but I don’t get where you’re coming from on this one. Why shouldn’t we try to help everyone out on this? If it gets an in base guy a green slip and lets a reserve guy who didn’t want to fly stay home with the family (or boat) and the company still maintains the integrity of the operation then what’s the harm to the pilots especially?
I enjoy reading a lot of your posts even if I don’t agree with some of them but I don’t get where you’re coming from on this one. Why shouldn’t we try to help everyone out on this? If it gets an in base guy a green slip and lets a reserve guy who didn’t want to fly stay home with the family (or boat) and the company still maintains the integrity of the operation then what’s the harm to the pilots especially?
Yes, it would be good for pilots. No, I don’t think it’s a reasonable allocation of our negotiating resources.
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In what fantasy land do reserves get premium pay for deadheading to another base?!
What about trips in the bid packet that begin and end with deadheads to a hub, should those all pay premium pay too (for the line holders who are awarded them)?
Deadheading hub-hub at the beginning or end of a trip is a non-issue. A lot of commuters desire these type of trips.
We do need to improve deadhead language though. The fact that we have to book our own deadheads is sort of ridiculous. I'm sure all pilots could get behind deadhead improvements.
What about trips in the bid packet that begin and end with deadheads to a hub, should those all pay premium pay too (for the line holders who are awarded them)?
Deadheading hub-hub at the beginning or end of a trip is a non-issue. A lot of commuters desire these type of trips.
We do need to improve deadhead language though. The fact that we have to book our own deadheads is sort of ridiculous. I'm sure all pilots could get behind deadhead improvements.
In what fantasy land do reserves get premium pay for deadheading to another base?!
What about trips in the bid packet that begin and end with deadheads to a hub, should those all pay premium pay too (for the line holders who are awarded them)?
Deadheading hub-hub at the beginning or end of a trip is a non-issue. A lot of commuters desire these type of trips.
We do need to improve deadhead language though. The fact that we have to book our own deadheads is sort of ridiculous. I'm sure all pilots could get behind deadhead improvements.
What about trips in the bid packet that begin and end with deadheads to a hub, should those all pay premium pay too (for the line holders who are awarded them)?
Deadheading hub-hub at the beginning or end of a trip is a non-issue. A lot of commuters desire these type of trips.
We do need to improve deadhead language though. The fact that we have to book our own deadheads is sort of ridiculous. I'm sure all pilots could get behind deadhead improvements.
I do have a problem with our domestic DH language. If it's not improved in the next TA it's an automatic no-vote for me.
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From: 737 FO
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I really couldn't care less about public shaming.
I agree I would much rather DH on a 70-90 seater and pink tag.
Can't find anywhere in the FOM that prohibits us from DH'ing with a 26" bag. As far as FA's, have you seen what they bring back from Europe when they nonrev home?
I agree I would much rather DH on a 70-90 seater and pink tag.
Can't find anywhere in the FOM that prohibits us from DH'ing with a 26" bag. As far as FA's, have you seen what they bring back from Europe when they nonrev home?
Hear! Hear!
I say the new contract needs an update to the bidding timeline:
3rd - Bids Open
9th - Bids Close
14th - Awards Posted
* Bs shall be posted within 24 hours of captains.
Line Holder
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Wouldn’t do any good. That would be just another contract item that would continuously be violated with no real repercussions.
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Don't think the negotiators are going to be wasting much time pursuing that fantasy. Might as well say "QOL" by demanding premium pay for driving to work during rush hour. I mean doesn't that impact your "QOL?"
We need to work hard on improving the quality of our trips as we fly them (improved DH language, which has been mentioned recently, is a great example) and that is where we need to place our emphasis. Trying to restrict the company's ability to run the trip coverage sequence as it currently exists will take a bit more effort.
By the way, I agree that there are a few areas there which should be improved (such as the ability the company has to assign a trip to a reserve that conflicts with his regular line days off in the next month, all for no premium pay, when they could not do that if it interfered with his reserve days off!...that should never have been in the contract to begin with. However, that is not the same as just saying "reserves can only cover in base trips, period."
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