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Old 04-29-2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
You are talking two different things here. What a pilot does on a layover is his business. I've had guys in the JS going home on similar such long layovers. So long as you are ready at scheduled pickup time on your next working leg, nothing else matters.

Your other example of a guy getting his days mixed up could happen on any layover. Whether or not he was at home or not hardly matters--though his missing the pickup, for whatever reason, is indeed his fault.


So to answer the question: yes, you can go home on a long domestic layover. However, it is always the pilot's job to be available and ready for work at the scheduled pickup time.
Not sure how I'm talking about two different things. I honestly don't know if there is a snippet in the FOM that says you cannot non-rev while on an extended layover which is why I quoted the word "allowed." I've never seen such a prohibition but that doesn't mean much. However, of course pilots do it. The LAX and ATL FRMS layovers are inviolate so why not get rest in your own bed instead of the Marriott Marquis or Westin Bonaventure. And it isn't like the company can re-route you during one seeing as they are inviolate.

All I said is that you better show up at pick-up/brief. The FL guy didn't, whether through his own fault or not. That's all. I am sure that was a chance for him to "be someone" and meet a few people in the CPO. The situation becomes exacerbated because the FRMS layovers occur in ATL and LAX, neither of which are a 350 base and therefore have no short call relief valve. Further, if you get into a pinch, you cannot avail yourself of the Call in Honest/UTC policy because ATL and LAX are not "your base," Dertoit is. Will sked jump in and get you positive space in a pinch? I highly suspect they would to protect a 300 seat international flight but you are operating without the safety net of those policies.

Things certainly happen to pilots on layovers - injuries, illness, etc. I just wouldn't want to have to answer the question why I wasn't in place because I was unable to non-rev back to my flight. That's just me. At the end of the day, forewarned is forearmed.
Old 04-29-2019 | 11:22 AM
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Just got an email from Delta to setup Multi-factor authentication for Crew Notification Preference Application.

Is that a new app for crew notification or a just a fancy name for something we already use?
Old 04-29-2019 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Not sure how I'm talking about two different things. I honestly don't know if there is a snippet in the FOM that says you cannot non-rev while on an extended layover which is why I quoted the word "allowed." I've never seen such a prohibition but that doesn't mean much. However, of course pilots do it. The LAX and ATL FRMS layovers are inviolate so why not get rest in your own bed instead of the Marriott Marquis or Westin Bonaventure. And it isn't like the company can re-route you during one seeing as they are inviolate.

All I said is that you better show up at pick-up/brief. The FL guy didn't, whether through his own fault or not. That's all. I am sure that was a chance for him to "be someone" and meet a few people in the CPO. The situation becomes exacerbated because the FRMS layovers occur in ATL and LAX, neither of which are a 350 base and therefore have no short call relief valve. Further, if you get into a pinch, you cannot avail yourself of the Call in Honest/UTC policy because ATL and LAX are not "your base," Dertoit is. Will sked jump in and get you positive space in a pinch? I highly suspect they would to protect a 300 seat international flight but you are operating without the safety net of those policies.

Things certainly happen to pilots on layovers - injuries, illness, etc. I just wouldn't want to have to answer the question why I wasn't in place because I was unable to non-rev back to my flight. That's just me. At the end of the day, forewarned is forearmed.
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Old 04-29-2019 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
I hope not. Having non-revved and deadheaded on both the 321 and 739, the 321 is a far better customer experience. The 739 is my least favorite Delta airplane as a passenger.
Not to mention the cabin altitude in the 737 stays at 8,000ft which could lead to fatigue and headaches in some people.
Old 04-29-2019 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
Just got an email from Delta to setup Multi-factor authentication for Crew Notification Preference Application.

Is that a new app for crew notification or a just a fancy name for something we already use?
I’m curious as well. We already have Ping to be able to access our pay on delta net. Not sure what this is.
Old 04-30-2019 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooster435
Just got an email from Delta to setup Multi-factor authentication for Crew Notification Preference Application.

Is that a new app for crew notification or a just a fancy name for something we already use?
I distinctly remember setting this up a few months ago. I deleted the email and will complain in a couple months when I can't login to something .
Old 04-30-2019 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
More likely delta will get a deal on the max real cheap.
Instead of what?

Would we CX some Airbus options?
Old 04-30-2019 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
DTW350 10 day trip. There is a LAX 79 hour layover on this trip. Are guys allowed to commute home for this long layover?
Yes you can. No you shoudn't. If anything happens, you'll have to eat a missed trip and one that will be extremely expensive and disruptive for the company and it won't go over well.
Old 04-30-2019 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Instead of what?

Would we CX some Airbus options?
Nope. wudnt think so. But we have a track record of being pretty astute bargain shoppers when it comes to aircraft.
While a single type fleet has advantages...if there is a grounding it shuts the whole operation down. So a fleet mix of aircraft is a way to offset.
If boeing offered Delta a smoking deal on some cancelled Max orders....does anyone think we wudnt seriously look at them?
Old 04-30-2019 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Nope. wudnt think so. But we have a track record of being pretty astute bargain shoppers when it comes to aircraft.
While a single type fleet has advantages...if there is a grounding it shuts the whole operation down. So a fleet mix of aircraft is a way to offset.
If boeing offered Delta a smoking deal on some cancelled Max orders....does anyone think we wudnt seriously look at them?
I get all that. But we'd have a mixed fleet regardless of that. I'm just wondering if we did get some MAX aircraft would they be growth (or in leiu of some other future order) or would we have to take it out of existing AB orders?
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