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I disagree, APDs, IVDs, have both been denied. I do OK because I have figured it out but for the over 50% in seat crowd very little can be done unless you drop everything and rebuild on the 20th. once the month starts there's no swapping unless you pick up days that are low.
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I disagree, APDs, IVDs, have both been denied. I do OK because I have figured it out but for the over 50% inn seat crowd very little can be done unless you drop everything and rebuild on the 20th. once the month starts there's no swapping unless you pick up days that are low.
You can IVD, APD, PD and or WS in the previous month to cause a drop. You an bid at least one summer vacation. You can slide vacation. You can structure your initial pbs bid to force a low time award. You can place trips as just pick up on the swap board. You can place trips as qualified drops in DBMS. All of the above failing would be rare.
If you know a month and a half ahead, it is easier but not a guarentee. I have never held a summer vacation week, only <30% can hold those because of the limited number. Less than 3 weeks out no way you can drop a trip, they are all 4 or 5 days and most likely touch a weekend.
This is something I tried to address in the survey months back. We need better limits on the company’s ability to make certain vacation weeks almost none available and other parts of the year excess numbers available. Ample vacation during months you don’t fly much anyway is much less valuable.
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If you know a month and a half ahead, it is easier but not a guarentee. I have never held a summer vacation week, only <30% can hold those because of the limited number. Less than 3 weeks out no way you can drop a trip, they are all 4 or 5 days and most likely touch a weekend.
August schedules are released. I looked at 8 random categories. I did not find one single day in Aug where a APD or IVD would not be granted and most of the time a PD would work. That’s very different from what your trying to portray. Again not one single day in 8 categories for a IVD or APD.
Edit: This post just in from the man who states you can’t drop trips for more time off in the summer!
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Maybe we should eliminate the GS trigger. I'm sitting at 65 hours after dropping a trip. Ain't no way, unless...
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The 20th hasn't happened, so that won't hold true for everyone on the list. In how many of your data points is there room enough to accommodate more than a small percentage of the list exercising this magical APD? The privilege of using your once-a-year-only, unpaid APD in a single month of the summer doesn't scream schedule influence to me. Of course I know you and I rarely see eye to eye.
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The 20th hasn't happened, so that won't hold true for everyone on the list. In how many of your data points is there room enough to accommodate more than a small percentage of the list exercising this magical APD? The privilege of using your once-a-year-only, unpaid APD in a single month of the summer doesn't scream schedule influence to me. Of course I know you and I really see eye to eye.
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