Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-17-2019 | 07:56 AM
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From: Kickin’ Back
You seem to be dismissing IVDs a bit too easily. They are one of the greatest improvements to the contract I've seen. Without going into details that only matter to me, I've used IVD's a couple of times to take days from a "throwaway" week of QVAC in January, and instead use them in far more important times of the year.
IVDs are yet one more optional tool available to us to make our lives just a bit better. I love them.
IVDs are yet one more optional tool available to us to make our lives just a bit better. I love them.
Denny
07-17-2019 | 07:58 AM
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You seem to be dismissing IVDs a bit too easily. They are one of the greatest improvements to the contract I've seen. Without going into details that only matter to me, I've used IVD's a couple of times to take days from a "throwaway" week of QVAC in January, and instead use them in far more important times of the year.
IVDs are yet one more optional tool available to us to make our lives just a bit better. I love them.
IVDs are yet one more optional tool available to us to make our lives just a bit better. I love them.
07-17-2019 | 09:53 AM
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From: Kickin’ Back
Gonna put this out there as a public service announcement. This usage of an IVD is only effective when bidding reserve.
By strategically using a 1 day IVD from a vacation, you can increase your total days off by one day. Here is how. Take this August for example. I have a week of primary vacation. If I bid reserve with 7 days of vacation, I get 9 X days. If I used a one day IVD from that vacation in a different month I now have 6 days of vacation in August but, wait for it.......I now get 10 X days. Either way same total days off in August but an extra day off overall.... This doesn’t work every month but y’all get the idea......
Maybe you use that IVD and drop it right in the middle of a group of on call days and Voila! you now have a bunch of on call days that make it harder for CS to use you.
Denny
By strategically using a 1 day IVD from a vacation, you can increase your total days off by one day. Here is how. Take this August for example. I have a week of primary vacation. If I bid reserve with 7 days of vacation, I get 9 X days. If I used a one day IVD from that vacation in a different month I now have 6 days of vacation in August but, wait for it.......I now get 10 X days. Either way same total days off in August but an extra day off overall.... This doesn’t work every month but y’all get the idea......
Maybe you use that IVD and drop it right in the middle of a group of on call days and Voila! you now have a bunch of on call days that make it harder for CS to use you.
Denny
07-18-2019 | 08:51 AM
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It does take effort to make it happen but knowing the rules as a jr guy is a definite must for QOL.
07-18-2019 | 09:31 AM
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I disagree. It depends on your seniority. I am jr in category and I can’t get summer vacation nor do I get the best schedules. So I use my APD and IVDs to create summer vacations where they did not exist. I will create the time off I need then WS on my other off days. So far this summer through the creative use of these and the open board I have gone from being awarded schedules working almost every weekend to having most my weekends of and creating some vacation windows.
It does take effort to make it happen but knowing the rules as a jr guy is a definite must for QOL.
It does take effort to make it happen but knowing the rules as a jr guy is a definite must for QOL.
07-18-2019 | 10:36 AM
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I am shocked at how many pilots I fly with are completely unaware of IVDs. If you’re a line holder, it allows you to drop two additional trips with the same coverage rules as an APD. I think it’s great. I buy 4 extra days of vacation every year to solely use as IVDs.
07-18-2019 | 11:08 AM
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How do you buy vacation days? Don't you have to earn a payback day first and then use that? That seems difficult to do.
07-18-2019 | 11:38 AM
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You can buy vacation days using the bank, although I can't figure out how to do it. Would love some help. Seems pretty straightforward--options 3 and 4. But I keep getting a "not eligible" when I try to do it.
If you have PB days and use them for nothing else, they convert to vacation at the end of the year (is the short version).
07-18-2019 | 11:49 AM
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I disagree. It depends on your seniority. I am jr in category and I can’t get summer vacation nor do I get the best schedules. So I use my APD and IVDs to create summer vacations where they did not exist. I will create the time off I need then WS on my other off days. So far this summer through the creative use of these and the open board I have gone from being awarded schedules working almost every weekend to having most my weekends of and creating some vacation windows.
It does take effort to make it happen but knowing the rules as a jr guy is a definite must for QOL.
It does take effort to make it happen but knowing the rules as a jr guy is a definite must for QOL.
Denny
07-18-2019 | 05:35 PM
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You can buy vacation days using the bank, although I can't figure out how to do it. Would love some help. Seems pretty straightforward--options 3 and 4. But I keep getting a "not eligible" when I try to do it.
If you have PB days and use them for nothing else, they convert to vacation at the end of the year (is the short version).
If you have PB days and use them for nothing else, they convert to vacation at the end of the year (is the short version).
After March 31st it’s by “mutual agreement” with the company. So you have to get it approved. Which basically means no.
Just do it when vacation bidding starts next year. There’s a good description of the process in the Scheduling Reference Handbook.
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