Delta flight attendants use the same hotels as the pilots. They however fly different rotations since they have different work rules. We also have contractual rules in our contract requiring a downtown hotel on layovers over 12 hours. In general if the flight attendants on your last leg are also laying over with you and go back out at the same time then you will be in the same hotel. If they go out earlier they might be at the airport hotel while you go to the downtown hotel or the opposite can occur. If the pilots have a early departure they may be at the airport hotel. The short layover hotel and the long layover hotel will however be the same for both pilots and flight attendants. On international flights we always stay at the same hotel since you normally keep the crew together for the rotation. Even if we don't there usually is only one layover hotel so you still go to the same hotel.
There has been some discussion of splitting the flight attendants off on some international layovers. This is because some hotels have indicated they do not want flight attendant business. There have been theft issues at some hotels. The Bombay and Kiev layovers are two locations where it has been a issue. Bombay is now a different hotel for obvious reasons. I had the hotel in Tel Aviv try and make me pay for missing room items from flight attendants on the previous flight. Told them to take it up with Delta they were not charging my credit card!

Hey everyone, this is Steve Dickson with the weekly Flight Operations update for Friday, December 12th and I hope you’ve had a good week. I know it has been busy here in Atlanta as well as out in the operation with quite a bit going on leading up to the holidays. To start off, late Monday evening, as you know by now, the Association advised Delta that the Arbitration Panel issued its Integrated Seniority List Award and the accompanying Conditions and Restrictions for the integration of the pre-merger Delta and Northwest Pilot Seniority lists. Today our CEO Richard Anderson responded to ALPA that the company had accepted the Integrated List along with the Associated Conditions and Restriction. Reaching agreement on a combined contract and seniority list on such a short timeline is unprecedented in our industry and is a testament to the leadership of Delta and Northwest ALPA working together with the company for the benefit of all pilots and the company. We’re pleased to have reached this impressive milestone and now begin the next steps in fully integrating our pilot group. Moving forward – I, along with your entire Flight Ops leadership team, look forward to continuing our support of what is now the largest group of pilots in the world. We have a lot of work ahead of us during the next year as we continue to integrate the operation and I ask for your undivided attention to detail and safety as we move forward.

BigGuns,

Thanks! I usually listen to them, must have been at a Xmas party or something........yeah that's the ticket!..............no mad cow here!! I hear memory is the second thing to go and I can't remember the first!!:D

Denny......er......Crane!:D

Sailing,

Read the two letters on the first page of DALPA and both give very vague reasons for the fund. Only that there "may be differnet interpretations of the awarded SLI" (seems clear to me) and that a joint MEC will not have the power to levy a fee on the combined pilot group. They cut short of specifically saying why they are levying the assessment but giving it the title of merger dispute fund kind of tells a story in itself. Are we paying our bills in arears or are we expecting more from disputing pilots legal costs? Speaking of costs, why did the merger committees have to go AIG on us and meet in a five star resort in LA. Those are our dues paying for such luxuriuos accomodations, meeting facilities, and I'm sure meals too.

The assessment is not about the list as published. The different interpretations refer to the fences and some conditions. Its pretty easy to see where these issues could get confusing and one or both sides would dispute the others concept. For example. Delta parks the the 747's and annouces some draw backs on China service. At the same time they add a flight to Vietnam and Korea from MSP. They exercise delivery positions on 4 777's with 4 747's being parked. Who gets those aircraft? I have no real idea and I am sure it will take a 3rd party to make a ruling. The total assessment is expected to be about 165 dollars for the average captain spread over 4 months and 115 for the average copilot. The merger fund is depleted from the arbitration process. Its smart and prudent planning on the MEC part. Unused funds will be rebated back to you. Again on the DALPA forum there are very detailed explanations of why this is being done and why other funds can't legally be used in the case of disputes.

for those interested, the combined routemap is in the new sky magazine.
Delta-Sky Magazine: Full Magazine - November 2008

Nu,
We don't defer to the FA's but rather the company will generally give them what we successfully bargain for. As you astutely mentioned, DAL management historically would do whatever was required to keep unions off the property. How this will change with NW's unionized labor force remains to be seen.

Scoop

How about in BWI? I remember about a month ago, the DAL FA's were coming to our hotel and they said the pilots who brought them in would be going to another hotel, but they would be also taking thm out in the morning.....

Not that I care, but different work rules on any level allows the pilots to insist on trail-blazing work rules on all levels, if necessary. Someone has to take the lead you know. :rolleyes:

As far as I'm concerned, Prater can talk the talk about taking it back all he want's, it should be us as New Delta pilots who implement it....

Ok, I'm back.

New K Now!!! :cool:

As I mentioned they generally use the same hotels. There are a couple of exceptions. We get a downtown hotel if the layover is over 12 hours. In some high cost areas the company will keep the flight attendants at the airport on layovers over 12 but under around 15 hours. The other is a area where one hotel can't cover all required rooms and Delta has more then one hotel under contract. Since the flight attendant rotations are built separate from ours they may be placed in another hotel. This does not happen often.

Starting on page 105.... pretty impressive I must admit.