You're on to something!!!!! For those of you in Council 44, don't forget to support Mondo's Scope Resolution that he is introducing tomorrow. We need all hands on deck. Sorry for the Navy stuff, just couldn't resist and it is a "General Quarters" type of thing. Wish I could vote on this.

TC
DAL COUNCIL 44 MEETING NOTICE


DATE:
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
TIME:
10:30 a.m.– 2:00 p.m.
PLACE:
DoubleTree Club Hotel

ATL Airport
400 Norman Berry Drive
Atlanta, GA 30344
(404) 763-1600

Council 44 will pay for parking at this hotel for the LEC meeting.

AGENDA:
1. Officer Reports
2. Old Business
- Approval of Meeting Minutes
3. New Business
- Master Chairman Lee Moak
- MEC Negotiating Committee Update
- MEC Training Committee
- Scope Brief Resolution (see attached PDF)

Proxy Form Attached and Allowed for the Scope Resolution and Approval of Meeting Minutes.

If RAH can negotiate JetBlue rates for their 190's, then scope erosion should stop. 10 year Captain rates at B6 are now $139/hr with a 150% override for everthing over 78 hours. Our rates for the DC-9 are $143/hr with no override. If you figure the override in for an 85 hour month, JetBlue guys make $146/hr flying an E-190. That is the same rates as our M88/90 guys and only $6/hr less than the 320 guys for flying a 100-seat jet. If RAH could get those rates, it would actually be cheaper to have mainline guys fly the 190's than it would to have RAH fly them for us. JetBlue may have actually just made it economically beneficial to have any jets over 76-seats come to mainline.

I'll be there in the morning with ACL's proxy in hand. Walking in around 15 minutes late probably due to an A-period sim.

Party in my hotel room afterwards. ;)

Hey Clamp, would you mind too much giving those of us that can't attend or are not members of Council 44 a debrief? Thanks in advance, and thanks for making the effort to attend.

Tell Mondo that that one of his West Coast Navy buddies says Hello and I'm ready to help in any way possible.

Thanks!

TC

I knew Republic was on the move. Now that they have bought Frontier, what does that mean for Shuttle America?

Have they just decided to try Indy Air II during "Depression II - even more depressing" ?

will this allow DAL to get rid of Republic now? I cant imagine that DAL mgmt is excited about supplementing guaranteed profits to a direct competitor?

Never a dull minute is there Bucking? It's getting difficult to keep track of who owns who....... I would have thought it would be Skywest to make such a monumental move, but wait, there's still United!

What a mess........................

Think I'm going to the beach in Florida and open a taco shop.......:cool:

TC

Jerry Atkin is too careful for this sort of moon shot move. On the other hand, Bryan Bedford hears voices and sometimes acts on them.

After a quick review, it does not appear this purchase would trigger any action under Delta scope. I believe the sections which were triggered by ACA's operation of Indy Air were removed, since these provisions might have limited the buyers that would have bid on ASA and Comair back during bankruptcy.

Of course, we should all ask ALPA, "if these RJ's don't make enough money for mainline pilots to fly them, how do their operators earn the free cash to buy two national airlines that operate mainline equipment?"

Teamsters has had a different approach to scope than ALPA. All the Republic pilots (Republic, Shuttle, Chautauqua, et. al) are on the same list. Their Company can fly whatever it wants, as long as it uses pilots on THE seniority list. If that holds, this will be a very interesting merger. The acquired carrier flies the big airplanes and this will pit ALPA against Teamsters for a representational fight.

My nose has smelled something up at Republic for a few weeks now and based on the Service Bulletin which took their Shuttle Jets over the Delta scope limit and insider trading, I bought RJET on Friday. I've already got my sell order in. Hopefully I can make some cash during the bounce, if it bounces.

The other observation about this purchase, is that Republic is positioning for the death of United. Other airlines are getting into position too, including our own. My crystal ball is not that good on the United front, but they have a lot of good people over there. It will be a sad loss to our profession if Tilton runs that thing into a mountaintop.

So, is this shaping up to be a golden opportunity to get together with DAL management and cut a DCI out and then try and convince them as a pilot group to combine Compass to our list to replace them... this is an awesome opportunity not only because of that but because we'll at the same time get to watch our Supreme Leader give this away for nothing! :mad: This is going to be fun to watch. :(


Should we be teamsters? ;)

Can't just blame our Supreme Leader. Several LECs passed resolutions asking for the study of Compass integration and scope restoration. All they wanted is STUDY, yet collectively the MEC voted in acclimation NOT to study Compass integration.

Lee Moak has stated that Delta pilots benefit by keeping Compass separate and their low rates (mostly due to longevity) help keep costs (pilot pay) in line at the regionals, which helps Delta, this helping Delta pilots.

My Rep said that studying Compass integration would be "tipping our hand." I do hope that comment was sincere and it has been looked at, who knows?