Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 632358)

Oh, I agree that I don't think a furlough is coming. Just correcting the record that the last time DAL furloughed the pilots lost and a lot of us spent a long time away from the property. What I did learn from the last time, however, is to always have an "alternate." Don't let it surprise you if it does come around.

Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 632001)

Hey, at your house, you are the MEC chairman. Take a cue from Dear Leader and ignore the will of your house. Tell your roof to suck it up and leak. The oldest, most senior floorboard in the living room isn't the one being leaked on, after all, so how important can the leak be??

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 632297)

The current DC-9 rates minus $20 is what we got paid last year this time, too. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 632324)

Yes, DCI is the umbrella (or wholly owned,) corporation that handles all of the regional feed.


And we all know what "The Umbrella Corporation" unleashed in Racoon City!

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 632365)

Buzzpat,
I wouldn't say we lost - I would say it was a draw. I was in the very last group furloughed and thus out the shortest length of time, only 18 Months. If not for the NF clause the company could have furloughed more and kept them out. As it was, the guys on FMII made out like bandits, some getting a few months pay without working. I think the fact that the NF clause caused this is a good precedent to have. On the other hand I am a little doubtful of our unions desire to fully press the issue should it arise. The union guys are pretty sharp, but for some reason they really don't seem as concerned about scope as I feel they should be - different priorities I guess.

Scoop

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 632423)

Still, a no furlough clause should mean exactly that...it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 632266)

i talked with a union rep the other day that was certain that the no furlough clauses and triggers would hold up. He said on top of that most people have no idea how ridiculously expensive it would be to the company to furlough. Combine that with the fact the company has been trying very hard to keep morale up and follow through with all the promises they have made to the government about layoffs, you have alot of things pointing to no f-bomb.

With that said, i personally think the regionals are going to feel the brunt of all of this just as mgmt has been saying. they want to pull down the regional flying as much as possible so we'll see how the cards fall. i'm personally optimistic but realize that anything could happen. If it does, then there are worse things that could happen.

Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 632438)

Maybe in a bizarro world:)

Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 632469)

Super,

Thanks for changing the tone of this thread. Too many Debbie Downers. I think us guys at the bottom of the list will continue to see displacements but not furloughs.

BTW It's not too hard to have a backup plan that pays better and has a better QOL than commuting to reserve as many of us at the bottom are.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 632423)

Hey Scoop, I got ya. I guess it depends on where you stand (sit). Hard for me to say we got a draw from the company when we had a no furlough clause and I was furloughed for 6+ years. I understand it could have been worse. Still, a no furlough clause should mean exactly that...it doesn't.