They started recalls in May of 2006. The first new hire class was in Jan 2007.

DAL's first new hire class was Feb 5, 2007.

NWA's was later in the year.. sept or oct?

I heard a rumor today that Mesaba, in a Friday letter sent to pilots, announced layoffs in the 100-110 pilot range. Anyone else heard this?

Copied from another site:

XJ MEMO #09-40
TO: All pilots
FROM: XXXXX, Director of Flight Operations
SUBJECT: Upcoming staffing changes

As we announced earlier this month, Delta Air Lines has decided to reduce our Saab fleet by ten aircraft beginning this September. This reduction, along with Delta’s plans for diminished capacity this fall, will significantly impact Mesaba’s operation, and we must adjust our business plan.
As a result, Mesaba will be furloughing approximately 100 to 110 pilots. The first furloughs will start in August and continue into the fall. Mesaba will also displace approximately 65 to 75 Saab captains. Displaced pilots will be able to bid for a new position based on their seniority. These staffing reductions are based on our current fleet plan and projected aircraft utilization. If further changes occur, the staffing plan will be revised. The staffing reductions did assume the use of Time Off Without Pay (TOWOP) as well as Half-Time Lines (HTL), based on the recent Letter Of Agreement (LOA).
Today’s announcement is not an easy one to make, but it is a reality of our industry’s current economic challenges. A voluntary furlough notice will be posted today. If you have any questions, please contact your Chief Pilot or myself.

XXXX
Director Flight Operations
Mesaba Airlines

Sign a proxy and leave it in someone's box.

A little history here: I was recalled to the July 2004 class and bypassed to August 2004, and I was not FM II. The July class were all assigned 737-200's. An advanced entitlement came out in July and most guys did not bid off the
200 hoping for some quick seniority gains with subsequent recalls. As a result of no guys bidding for the 737-800 my recall class (August 2004) was mostly assigned to the 737-800. So instead of being the plug on the ATL 737-200 category I was recalled into the ATL 737-800 (a higher payrate) with about 35 guys below me - better Lucky than good I guess.
Scoop

Yup, it's official. They are overstaffed because Mama DAL is parking 10 of the Saabs, plus they thought they were getting 15 more CRJ900s but 10 of them went to ASA in their 2 for 1 deal.

Dude, I believe you misunderstood me. If the E-195 replaces a DC-9 it should pay the same as the DC-9. Not that the E-195 is below me, quite the contrary, the payrate for the E-195 was negotiated as a replacement for the DC-9 yet we knowingly agreed to pay substantially less for that plane. Does that clear it up? In other words I don't want to subsidize DAL to buy me a new 'shiney jet':cool:

I agree that if a plane is the same size it should pay the same, however the question is, would you then prefer to give that plane and flying to the regionals or get it on property and fight for higher wages? That plane or any 100 seater that is coming will DIRECTLY replace the DC9 and AIRBUS flying regardless. Whatever plane it is needs to be flown by mainline pilots, as a group we can get the pay up but if its let go to the regionals that flying is GONE. You're subsidizing the company by flying at your current rate compared to previous rates are you not? We all want to see the pay go up but scope has been eroded enough. If the regionals get anything bigger like a E-195 they will most certainly fly it at lower rates thus bringing down the idea of what YOU should be paid flying an airbus thats nearly the same size. :eek: The more planes that go to the regionals for lower pay directly effects our negotiating ability when it comes to OUR current planes and rates.

If a E-195 is ever flown by a regional you can bet that the airbus's, dc9s, and md80's will be parked because the E-195 has the same capability but since it would be at a regional the operating costs could be lower if flown at cheaper rates. the industry cant afford any further scope deterioration if we ever expect to get anything back.

GEPOPAP

Get Every Plane On the Property As Possible


I don't care what they pay. (At first) :)