Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 821770)

That creates a systems interface problem for the north jets. If the door is closed with the brakes not set, an OUT time is generated. North jets require the brakes set to preclude this, thus the new common procedure.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 821795)

According to some LCAs I flew with, this will eventually be the policy. The OUT time will be de-coupled from the beacon and be generated when the main cabin doors are all closed and the brake is released. IN time will be the parking brake set and a main cabin door opened.

Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 821770)

That creates a systems interface problem for the north jets. If the door is closed with the brakes not set, an OUT time is generated. North jets require the brakes set to preclude this, thus the new common procedure.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 821798)

That would be amazing. We'd be like.... Everyone else!

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 821794)

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 821808)

Then when guys start sticking credit cards in the door to get that out time with the door open... Then we'd be like every other airline. ;)

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 821814)

Ugh! I can see your brain cells dying.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 821818)

Even easier. Disable the GPS in the FMS (it will stop automatically updating the ACARS and FMS time automatically), select DME/DME as primary, place the #3 VHF onto a non AIRINC freq. (so nothing is updated in RES/SABRE/PARS), modify the system time as required, follow company procedures, move off the gate and away from cameras, place #3 VHF back to the primary AIRINC freq. ( this will update RES/SABRE//PARS but you'll be away from the cameras and ACARS periodically go NO COM anyways) and finally enable that GPS receiver before you fly that RNAV departure.

I think this is how other airlines do it, not that I know from personal experience.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 821818)

Even easier. Disable the GPS in the FMS (it will stop automatically updating the ACARS and FMS time automatically), select DME/DME as primary, place the #3 VHF onto a non AIRINC freq. (so nothing is updated in RES/SABRE/PARS), modify the system time as required, follow company procedures, move off the gate and away from cameras, place #3 VHF back to the primary AIRINC freq. ( this will update RES/SABRE//PARS but you'll be away from the cameras and ACARS periodically go NO COM anyways) and finally enable that GPS receiver before you fly that RNAV departure.

I think this is how other airlines do it, not that I know from personal experience.