Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 823874)

You guys are getting confused.

Whitlow has not changed. For a domestic flight, you have to be able to look back 24 hrs from the completion of any scheduled flight and find a legally scheduled rest period. (generally 8 or 9 hours)

Long call is not legal "duty" but it is also not legal "rest". You DO have telephone responsibilities on long call.

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The rule that comes into play if they are going to build 9 day blocks for domestic reserves is the "24 in 7" rule. A reserve can be on call for an unlimited number of consecutive days but you have to comply with that rule.

You must have been released from all duty and telephone responsibilities for 24 continuous hours at some point in the preceding 7 days prior to reporting for any domestic flight duty.

Scheduling could do that in any number of ways. Most likely they will start assigning 24 hours of "rest" after trips. You fly a 3 day to start your 9 days, then rest 24 hours, then have 5 days left. etc. etc. Also layovers count. They could also start releasing guys for 24 hours toward the beginning of the 9 day blocks when they are fat on "reserves available vs. reserves required".

Why they are doing this is the interesting question. Maybe they figure they will be splitting fewer 4 day trips this way. Fewer white slips and better reserve utilization saves them money.

Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 823630)

And I sat in the back of numerous NWA birds pulled off into the runup pad waiting on the numbers.

Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 823630)

Now when you push back you just go.

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 823877)

Way to go MSP. We're going to catch a lot of crap for this mixup...

Delta sends Cleveland kid to Boston and Boston kid to Cleveland

The year of the customer... ya right.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 823633)

Didn't you guys do exactly this ... with the DC-9s?? Just saying ...

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 823885)

You're dang right I'm confused!! :) Ok... so I can be scheduled for more than six days of reserve in a row, but scheduling will have to make sure I have a 24 hour break in there somewhere at some point. Right?

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 823637)

OK, you're right Carl, you're always right.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 823637)

You're just like my wife.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 823637)

You want an objective debate? That's what I do for a living. Flying for Delta is a hobby.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 823637)

I'll ask ops to show me late departures out of ATL due to AWABS for the 330 and the 747.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 823668)

NewK, not to tell you what to do but just a suggestion, why don't you grab that Dutch kid from Aruba that killed Natalie Holloway and stuff him in the pipe to plug the leak?

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 823749)

You've just described 99.9999999999% of pilots in general!:rolleyes::)

Denny

Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 823885)

You're dang right I'm confused!! :) Ok... so I can be scheduled for more than six days of reserve in a row, but scheduling will have to make sure I have a 24 hour break in there somewhere at some point. Right?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 823902)

That's true, but there's only one way to describe DennyCrane...

Mr. 100% !!

Carl