yeah hard to type when so many thoughts are running thru my head. smart phone, small keys, big hands dangerous combination. You got me.... minus 1 in the beer count

In all honesty, I think you're getting off on the wrong foot. Instead of being grateful for the opportunity work for the world's largest and, in my opinion, greatest airline you're already *****ing about where you're going to go and what you're going to fly. Let's face it...you're going to be at the bottom of a list that has 12,000 other guys senior to you. Yes, we all want to fly specific equipment out of a specific base. It comes to all of us at some point. Right now, if I were you, I'd be excited about the prospect of working at DAL and getting ready to show up on Virginia Ave with bells on.

Just my opinion. In the long run, I think you'll be happier if you do.

Bring the nwa poolies to class we don't care where you put us or for how long. We are humble!

Compass pilots are ****ed at being held back, however we are very grateful this is all working out. Our anger is and should be directed at compass management for thier poor planning.

99% of the compass guys are very excited and grateful to flow and I would have to say vikz is out of line on this one. I would also say he doesnt represent the majority of compass pilots.

Apparently everyone is thinking i am not grateful. Not the case i am grateful my post was about the issue of Compas management holding us back which could affect base selection? When we meet you will understand i am a individual who wants nothing more then to fly the contract and honor the contract. I work within the union at compass and we have no idea how this hold back will affect everyone from flow thrus, to new hires and the Delta training schedule. It appears at first look it will be confusing for both current pilots at compass and all new hires at Delta. I see issues with this holdback that must make the people at Delta upset as it will create issues with training and slotting.

My posts must be confusing becasue everyone is jumping all over them. I will reiterate that "entitlement" and contract should not be confused. unfortuantely, many from the old Delta, never had a good understanding of the compass/nwa relationship and think we are just another DCI carrier who is trying to seat grab.

Riddle why am i out of line for saying compass management has Fubared this flow thru? Never once i have demanded anything? I said it stinks that my base of choice can be affected by being held back until a special class is run at the end of the year. It seems logical that we will not have a choice on base as a result of being held back. Some Delta guys have said this might not be the case, GREAT but right now we have no information. I am trying to find out how being held back does not affect this base selection?

Maybe Delta has different criteria for putting pilots in bases where they are needed. Again i have no information on this and hope someone will provide it and educate me on Delta's procedures.

I really don't see why everyone is upset with me and saying hear you go again "entitlement attitude" not like i am holding "entitlement" against any Delta pilot who would have elected to flow down and take my captain slot if flow downs had happend. Delta pilots were "entitled" per contract to the captain seats if needed. The compass pilots would have supported and understood because it was in the contract. Instead i hear from DAL4Ever be lucky i will even let you share a cockpit with me.

Thankfully, flow downs have not been an issue to this point.

Not at all. My gripe is your complaining on the DAL board to guys who interviewed, have gone through displacements, forced moves, furloughs, etc., and your big worry is if you will be in base or not. You chose to not interview here. Fine. We have a flow through. Good for you. MSP is your preference. You will get it I'm sure as 70 openings went unfilled on the 88 in the last AE. If you have to commute for six months, get over it. Lots of guys have been here 10+ years are commuting (non voluntarily) so I don't think you're going to get a very sympathetic ear as a new hire.

I don't think it has any real effect on where you will end up. I think you are confusing how they make new hire assignments. They don't post all the unfilled vacancies from a new hire class and give the first class the choice of anything they want. They will pick 30 seats if the class has 30 pilots where they want the pilot to be. That typically will be a cross section of all bases with vacancies so they keep the same manning level at each base they are short. Your seniority within your class will have far more impact on what base you get then the class you are in. One other good thing is unlike many airlines Delta has no freeze for new hires. There will be ongoing bids and it should be very easy to get to MSP or DTW quickly. I think both bases will go junior to NY when the dust settles.

You are right commuting is always something that will be a issue in this industry. However, this is not my first rodeo and i have been displaced 6 times actually and been forced to commute across country. Just about everyone of the top 60 pilots at Compass came to Compass because we lived near base and were sick of our old airlines and the commute. That's why i may seem a little sensative about it. My point being that being held back by compass most likely mean a commute where if they let us go in our scheduled order we would have a better chance of this msp base.

I don't expect anyone at Delta to care about me. However, It upsets me that Compass management has blanketed all flows to be held back for 90 days. My issues on this subject are for those of us affected by the hold back and of course i am one of them. Nothing personal to those of you at Delta who have gone thru these furloughs, displacements, etc., but your also not the only one's.

I undestand how the seniorty issue works. I will get the seniorty that is afforded by the flow not asking for anything more or less. My issues is with being held back as a benefit to compass management and it possibly costing me QOL with a MSP base.

I have a question about the flow through. In the future, do new hires applying to Compass interview with DAL or Compass? Does DAL ever get a say in who is being hired or flowed through?