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TOGA LK 06-23-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 831270)
Exactly. One of the biggest things we need attention to is 1. prompt ramp service and 2. prompt connection of the airplane to external services.


Item 1 will save huge amounts of gas as we are running the big motors out there waiting.

Item 2 requires further attention on times where management thinks that the outside temperature makes it ok to not run air.

I do have one suggestion- One of the things I used to do in the CRJ (knowing that it had poor air output) was to precool the cabin in descent. I've found this works on the 737 very well, too. I would intentionally run the cabin cooler than it should be to keep the temperature more tolerable as we taxiied in with the reduced airloads of idle engines.

I guess I just gave that idea to some moron justifying their desk job for the next oil spike...

That has been common practice on the 9 since the 60's. Used to do that when I had to pick up clients on a hot summer day in LAS. If you keep the door closed it will stay cool for an hour in direct sunlight. Always amazes me when some CA flips on the ram air after we've cooled the cabin down to the low 60's.

acl65pilot 06-23-2010 07:13 PM

80, I do the same on the 757/767 and it works great. At the Approach check I turn the tem controllers to the 10-9 o'clock position.

forgot to bid 06-23-2010 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 831268)
Some other positives from the CVG meeting this morning.

Our revenues are up significantly since the low of fourth quarter 09. Management seems commited to paying down our debt. Cash on hand has increased. They want out of the RJ business (their words, not mine). 50 seaters are going bye bye. More MD90s. Trying tying to figure out how or what to do with 717 configured Saudi MD90s. Forget about the 787-8, ain't happening. Merger synergies are 15% greater than expected. Re-gating some of the concourses in Atlanta so that those gates can receive any aircraft -- net result is a total decrease in gates but an increase in gates available that can accept your individual aircraft type.

Okay, for those of you who haven't yet experienced the fun of a 1-2 hour wait for a gate in ATL on IROPS, here is what they'll tell you, "we don't have a list, we're putting aircraft in gates based upon type and how long they've been there." Actually there is 3 criteria. But basically its not first come first serve, its multiple lines depending on what type of gate comes available. Making it so any plane could go to any gate would be great.


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 831268)
Both the FAA/NTSB and DAL want the pilots to focus on "professionalism" in the cockpits as well as our appearance in public (uniform clean, pressed, shoes shined, grooming, etc.).

Forgive me, but the FAA wants to focus on professionalism?

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 831268)
Shipsets of Jepps as soon as possible -- one step closer to EFBs. No major equipment changing bases except SLC converts to ER on next AE, ATL will switch to ER next August (timeline a guess). Hiring 305 this year. No words were said if they were going to continue (despite the rumor or 60/month in Jan) but did say they expect to hire again later in the fall of '10.

Wow, all ER in ATL by August, I thought they were slowing things down a bit? Well, more down bidding in ATL. :mad: Broken record: open a 330 base.


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 831268)
Everything is coming out of the desert -- the 744s get dusted off and go to Haienda.

Keen, you're going to be a busy man.


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 831268)
Lastly, this was the first thing discussed. Cross fleeting of management. DAL is sending fNWA down south and fDAL up north. Now that our "baseline" operations has met DOT approval and we are merger complete, now we are going to focus on best practices. Say goodbye to crap like 500 feet checks. Part of that is to cross fleet our management to see whats good and bad on the other side.

Nu?


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 831270)
Exactly. One of the biggest things we need attention to is 1. prompt ramp service and 2. prompt connection of the airplane to external services.


Item 1 will save huge amounts of gas as we are running the big motors out there waiting.

Item 2 requires further attention on times where management thinks that the outside temperature makes it ok to not run air.

I do have one suggestion- One of the things I used to do in the CRJ (knowing that it had poor air output) was to precool the cabin in descent. I've found this works on the 737 very well, too. I would intentionally run the cabin cooler than it should be to keep the temperature more tolerable as we taxiied in with the reduced airloads of idle engines.

I guess I just gave that idea to some moron justifying their desk job for the next oil spike...

We should be more proactive about getting that air hooked up when we park, especially at the outstations. I'm guilty of letting them slide one too often. BUF comes to mind, they never hook up and they're excuse I know is its BUF but airflow is airflow and I don't care if its 50F in the summer up there, get the air on.

I precool the 88 because it heats up on the descent, not just the taxi in. Its too bad a plane as long as that doesn't have two cabin zones and its too bad "big boy" planes don't have the air controls in the cabin with the FA's - unlike the Embraers. :D

BTW, I had a cat rancher before she stepped foot on my plane not long ago demand the APU be turned on for air. Funny thing is she hadn't even gotten on the airplane to know that the air hose was working great. :rolleyes: Damn hot flashes.

TOGA LK 06-23-2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 831261)
I'm all for saving fuel - I understand that it's expensive and all. But, I'm also for making the trip (the whole trip) comfortable for the pax. They just flew across the ocean or across the country for hours - I can leave the cool air on for a few minutes while they deplane. If they plug in the external air, sure, I'll shut off the packs and APU if the ext. pwr is hooked up.

Imagine being in the back of a 757 or 767 waiting for a hundred people in front of you to deplane. Then the air conditioning gets turned off. It gets warm quickly.

+1 The last thing pax need to remember their flight by is a hot and steamy aircraft so the company can save a few dollars over those minutes.

A company called Parker Aviation in CA is working on a fuel cell system that will replace the APU on the 320. Not sure if it is a retrofit or R&D for future models, but it the concept is similar to the electrically driven pack system on the 787. More to follow in about five years.

forgot to bid 06-23-2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 831276)
80, I do the same on the 757/767 and it works great. At the Approach check I turn the tem controllers to the 10-9 o'clock position.

The EMB-120's you kept in cold the whole flight. :D In fact, in the summer of 2000 in IAH they wired our 120s to run only in cold, no hot air even allowed into the system. Problem is they wired one backwards and it blew full hot in a Texas sized drought. Maintenance refused to believe us. Captain refused the plane, CPO went bananas, mechanic wanted to fight... and I do mean physically.

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KC10 FATboy 06-23-2010 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 831278)
Wow, all ER in ATL by August, I thought they were slowing things down a bit? Well, more down bidding in ATL. :mad: Broken record: open a 330 base.

.

Sorry ForgotToBid ... that should have said August '11. I'm correcting my post now.

I screwed it up again. It's 2011 !!!!

forgot to bid 06-23-2010 07:27 PM

No it wasn't you, I thought 2011 when you said it, I guess I read into things. But still, 2011 doesn't seem that far off, one or two AE's and 767 ATL is gone.

80ktsClamp 06-23-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 831276)
80, I do the same on the 757/767 and it works great. At the Approach check I turn the tem controllers to the 10-9 o'clock position.



Never did that on the 75/76... I suck as a pilot.


Only became apparent to me watching the temps on the airplanes with the lower bleed outputs... the dividing line seems to be the CFM-56 and smaller with being able to keep up.

Since ftb is big bird, can I be a nerd version of another sesame street character? I can hold crayons too, but all I know what to do with them is draw on the walls.

buzzpat 06-23-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 831180)
80 so true.

Also wait to shut the APU air off until the ground air is on. It helps prevent the lines and mixing compartment from going above 100 degrees. If you wait a few seconds for that air to stat flowing and to cool down, the ground air works very well.

Yep. On the 73 that's it. Crank the APU taxiing into the gate. Put the electrics on APU, when you stop shut down the left side and wait until the ground air is on. Count about 10-15 seconds and then turn off the APU bleeds. Even in Miami or ATL it works well. 'Course it depends on the ground crews. If its hot and they're slow, I keep the APU cranking the cool air until I know for sure that the ground air is on. As many have said before, customer happiness is where its at. Another 5 minutes of APU pales in comparison to a Medallion Million Miler beeyatching about the temperature.

acl65pilot 06-23-2010 07:36 PM

Like we say in the resturant industry, "We will forgive you for a bad meal, but we will not forgive you for bad service." Same holds true here. Even if they paid 20 bucks for their flight they expect the best we can give, and that means taking the extra second to do it the best we can. Let them know what we are doing and do everything thing we can to keep them informed.

Bad flights happen, but they do not need to be compounded by cruddy service.


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