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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 839544)
KC10 - I applaud your efforts. But I can't remember the last time I was on an MD-88 non-revving in the back and was NOT hot. Turn the dang APU on! That airplane has the worst air conditioning system when sitting at the gate, primarily because of no recirc fan, so there is minimal airflow.
As soon as you get many people on board, it overwhelms the system. But I routinely notice pilots not turning it on until ~5 minutes before push, by that time, the whole back of the plane is sweating and its embarassing. And when you pull into the gate after the flight with a full load of people, start the APU! In the five minutes between engine shut down and the external air being hooked up, while everyone (again in the far back) is sitting there in an aluminum tube with the "windows rolled up", it gets frikkin hot! I hate the APU sheriff thing, and think its the dumbest thing we've ever done. But why pilots continue to make their passengers sweat is beyond me....:mad: I like to gradually increase the AC in the descent so it's cold by approach. |
I, been the victim of the penny pincher mentality, and I swear that the airline will lose more money by very poor customer service than the amount of fuel trying to be saved. Any passenger, especially those business travellers paying the highest fares will go elsewhere if given the choice. Nothing better than traveling to your very important business meeting and smelling like a cow chip.
Do your passengers and airline a favor, keep it cool. Safety comes first and remember comfort is second. Some very elderly passengers could be forced into distress due to the heat. Keep it cool. |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 839544)
KC10 - I applaud your efforts. But I can't remember the last time I was on an MD-88 non-revving in the back and was NOT hot. Turn the dang APU on! That airplane has the worst air conditioning system when sitting at the gate, primarily because of no recirc fan, so there is minimal airflow.
As soon as you get many people on board, it overwhelms the system. But I routinely notice pilots not turning it on until ~5 minutes before push, by that time, the whole back of the plane is sweating and its embarassing. And when you pull into the gate after the flight with a full load of people, start the APU! In the five minutes between engine shut down and the external air being hooked up, while everyone (again in the far back) is sitting there in an aluminum tube with the "windows rolled up", it gets frikkin hot! I hate the APU sheriff thing, and think its the dumbest thing we've ever done. But why pilots continue to make their passengers sweat is beyond me....:mad: People need to use APU AIR CONDITION COLDER, it needs to be used and the volume and temp in my experience has been much stronger than when just selecting ON. When I was trained on the 88 I was told you can never use it, don't know why becuase 88 Vol 1, SP 2.1: If cabin is above 75°F: Select AIR COND COLDER. With both packs on, if left or right air conditioning pressure remains or is <12 psi; operate only one pack. |
Originally Posted by Launchpad475
(Post 839535)
Whats with all the beavers on wheels posts lately, did I miss the joke or does someone really really want a beaver on wheels?
--- If I win the lottery tonight, $43M, I will take people flying on my DHC-2 Beaver on wheels. fwiw. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../5/1470533.jpg |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 839490)
What.. is Africa somehow better if it's on the 777 or the 330????
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 839553)
OMG! Thankyou!!! It's nice to know this mentality exists elsewhere. I'm all about saving gas, but not at the expense of our pax comfort. Save it elsewhere.
I like to gradually increase the AC in the descent so it's cold by approach. Approach Checklist= Packs at the 50% cold Mark. Landing checklist= Packs full cold Keep the APU until ground air is hooked up and blowing. Then shut down. As the guidance stated last year, do not let the cooling chambers of the ACM's warm up. If you do you will never cool down the jet. It takes a few extra minutes of your time, but the next crew and load of passengers will be happy it is comfortable. On a side note I see they are changing the JetAir hoses with insulated ones, and that should help the issue immensely. |
Originally Posted by Howgozit
(Post 839620)
I was just asking aircraft specific, does the ER go to all Africa destinations?
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Looks like we will run out of DTW 320 FO's today. My RAW is 80 already.
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Originally Posted by Howgozit
(Post 839620)
I was just asking aircraft specific, does the ER go to all Africa destinations?
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 839647)
Looks like we will run out of DTW 320 FO's today. My RAW is 80 already.
I'll be swimming in a sea of jepps when I go back to work I guess, can't wait til ship sets. :D I should have better luck next week. I'm actually going to bid harder for a line with some else start nexts of course added in just in case. its fun when you bid, its like day 1 of baseball season, you can have whatever you want... until PCS shows up and you're down 0 to 15 in the 1st inning. --- I will say I am now a believer in being able to do more than 6 days in a row on reserve. It makes swaping days off a whole lot better. |
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