Originally Posted by newKnow

80,

I gave you a perfect set up for cheerleader pics in an earlier post. Did you not take it because it was for older, NFL cheerleaders as opposed to the young, hot NCAA cheerleaders? Am I beginning to show my age?

Originally Posted by RockyBoy

Hey, if you non-rev and connect through say ATL, you can only view the standby list for the first flight. If you get on that first flight are you above all the standby people that are originating in ATL since your connecting or do you get thrown back into the list again?

Originally Posted by Herkflyr

Please do! As a south guy, I think that the DAL culture was superior to NWA's (in most of the touchy-feely ways)

Originally Posted by Herkflyr

but aside from a perhaps unhealthy obsession with the rigidity of your SOPA/SMAC, I am getting the feeling that NWA's operational procedures were superior to most of DAL's.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

Strangely a very good description of how it was to fly under SOPA/SMAC. I'd love to see it return, but am not holding my breath

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

It will happen. Government regulators will force it. But by then, the move toward high standardization will be Delta's idea. And that makes all the difference.

Carl

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Okay Carl, I'll take this on. I want to speak about AWABS because I have a question too.

Now follow me here, we're going on an adventure appropriate for friday night apcf and not to unlike I just went through with the movie Inception.

The other day I was holding short of ramp 2 on the north outer taxiway in ATL. Waiting for my gate because we were on time and our gate was occupied for another 20 minutes. Makes no sense does it? And we were on time despite having a reroute from BDL-ATL that took us over CLE.

But while sitting there I saw an MD88 come running down 26L for takeoff. I'm at the end of 26L and this sucker is getting closer, and closer, and closer, and not rotating. They had to be about 2000' from the end when they rotated and climbed out. Turns out it was a 9. Two planes later another 9 repeated the event.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

So that made me think of this:

Finger in Butt Crack Sparks Knife Fight
DALLAS - A Dallas woman touched her friend's buttocks, sparking an assault and attempted stabbing, police said.

According to a police report, 22-year-old Laquita Mattox rubbed a finger along the victim's butt crack, prompting her to clench her buttocks. The victim claimed the clenching caused the bed she was sitting on to break, angering Mattox. A fight ensued in which Mattox repeatedly hit the victim before grabbing a butcher knife and threatening to kill her. According to the report, she said, "Are you ready to die?" The alleged victim called police and the suspect fled, the report stated.

The reason why I thought this is I didn't know butt clenching could break a bed, but it about broke a pilot seat on an MD88. So, AWABS, like what is the takeoff run of a 9 on a 97F day in ATL?

Okay, some things have been embellished here, unfortunately not all of it. The news story is real.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Just Standardization. Standardized roles for each crewmember under normal and abnormal conditions. Everyone knew exactly what to expect from the other. If you didn't see it, you immediately knew something was wrong. Carl

Originally Posted by Stratosphere

Gee from the looks of it I didn't think the MX group was missed at all.

Originally Posted by Stratosphere

You FNWA guys certainly had the bottom of the barrel scabs doing your maintenance for you.

Originally Posted by Stratosphere

Well as a former 20 yr ExNW mechanic and striker I knew we were not to be a part of the new Delta..You do know this merger was planned WELL in advance hence the plot to bust AMFA right?

Originally Posted by Stratosphere

It's a shame NW as well as having the best SOC used to have the best maintenance program in the business at one time..

Originally Posted by Herkflyr

My point about the rigidity of things (perhaps not SOPA/SMAC but other NWA guidance) was:

1. F/O's didn't even know how to load the FMS because that was the captain's strict domain. Ditto for overhead preflight panel, and the exterior walkaround. While I like the fact that usually a certain duty is delegated for this crewmember or that, to absolutely 100% of the time state "only" this guy does this or that, results in you losing a lot of knowledge, and more importantly, degrades airmanship.

2. Apparently at NWA you would rather go around than have the pilot flying actually touch the flap handle? While 99% of the time the flying pilot doesn't touch the flaps or gear, there are the rare occasions when the captain is busy on the radio or coordinating something with the FAs. In that case if I am slowing down I will move the flaps and just sort of indicate what I did. The captain always just kind of nods and continues what he was doing. As the FOM clearly states, we all know that is the exception and not the rule.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of this. Aside from a few things like this (if true) I still think that your way of doing operational business at NWA was stellar.