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Okay Carl, I'll take this on. I want to speak about AWABS because I have a question too.
Now follow me here, we're going on an adventure appropriate for friday night apcf and not to unlike I just went through with the movie Inception.
The other day I was holding short of ramp 2 on the north outer taxiway in ATL. Waiting for my gate because we were on time and our gate was occupied for another 20 minutes. Makes no sense does it? And we were on time despite having a reroute from BDL-ATL that took us over CLE.
But while sitting there I saw an MD88 come running down 26L for takeoff. I'm at the end of 26L and this sucker is getting closer, and closer, and closer, and not rotating. They had to be about 2000' from the end when they rotated and climbed out. Turns out it was a 9. Two planes later another 9 repeated the event.
So that made me think of this:
Finger in Butt Crack Sparks Knife Fight
DALLAS - A Dallas woman touched her friend's buttocks, sparking an assault and attempted stabbing, police said.
According to a police report, 22-year-old Laquita Mattox rubbed a finger along the victim's butt crack, prompting her to clench her buttocks. The victim claimed the clenching caused the bed she was sitting on to break, angering Mattox. A fight ensued in which Mattox repeatedly hit the victim before grabbing a butcher knife and threatening to kill her. According to the report, she said, "Are you ready to die?" The alleged victim called police and the suspect fled, the report stated.
The reason why I thought this is I didn't know butt clenching could break a bed, but it about broke a pilot seat on an MD88.
So, AWABS, like what is the takeoff run of a 9 on a 97F day in ATL?
Okay, some things have been embellished here, unfortunately not all of it. The news story is real.
Now follow me here, we're going on an adventure appropriate for friday night apcf and not to unlike I just went through with the movie Inception.
The other day I was holding short of ramp 2 on the north outer taxiway in ATL. Waiting for my gate because we were on time and our gate was occupied for another 20 minutes. Makes no sense does it? And we were on time despite having a reroute from BDL-ATL that took us over CLE.
But while sitting there I saw an MD88 come running down 26L for takeoff. I'm at the end of 26L and this sucker is getting closer, and closer, and closer, and not rotating. They had to be about 2000' from the end when they rotated and climbed out. Turns out it was a 9. Two planes later another 9 repeated the event.
So that made me think of this:
Finger in Butt Crack Sparks Knife Fight
DALLAS - A Dallas woman touched her friend's buttocks, sparking an assault and attempted stabbing, police said.
According to a police report, 22-year-old Laquita Mattox rubbed a finger along the victim's butt crack, prompting her to clench her buttocks. The victim claimed the clenching caused the bed she was sitting on to break, angering Mattox. A fight ensued in which Mattox repeatedly hit the victim before grabbing a butcher knife and threatening to kill her. According to the report, she said, "Are you ready to die?" The alleged victim called police and the suspect fled, the report stated.
The reason why I thought this is I didn't know butt clenching could break a bed, but it about broke a pilot seat on an MD88.
So, AWABS, like what is the takeoff run of a 9 on a 97F day in ATL? Okay, some things have been embellished here, unfortunately not all of it. The news story is real.
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Please do! As a south guy, I think that the DAL culture was superior to NWA's (in most of the touchy-feely ways) but aside from a perhaps unhealthy obsession with the rigidity of your SOPA/SMAC, I am getting the feeling that NWA's operational procedures were superior to most of DAL's.
I hope we take a few more of your operational policies and implement them.
Oh, and don't suggest to our FLOE (Flight Ops Engineering) that a lot of their products are sub-standard. They tend to be very touchy...probably because they have gotten so much flak over the years!
I hope we take a few more of your operational policies and implement them.
Oh, and don't suggest to our FLOE (Flight Ops Engineering) that a lot of their products are sub-standard. They tend to be very touchy...probably because they have gotten so much flak over the years!

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Sure it's been asked before, but I'll make it short:
If you're reserve and GS a 4-day trip that starts on a reserve day, and covers two X days with the fourth day originally a reserve day do you get GS pay for the fourth day?
In other words, assume a 4 day GS trip is awarded on day 1:
1. RES
2. X Day
3. X Day
4. RES
Does the X Day get paid back on day 4 and thus result in GS pay for day 4? (not to mention PB days for day 5 & 6?)
If you're reserve and GS a 4-day trip that starts on a reserve day, and covers two X days with the fourth day originally a reserve day do you get GS pay for the fourth day?
In other words, assume a 4 day GS trip is awarded on day 1:
1. RES
2. X Day
3. X Day
4. RES
Does the X Day get paid back on day 4 and thus result in GS pay for day 4? (not to mention PB days for day 5 & 6?)
Okay Carl, I'll take this on. I want to speak about AWABS because I have a question too.
Now follow me here, we're going on an adventure appropriate for friday night apcf and not to unlike I just went through with the movie Inception.
The other day I was holding short of ramp 2 on the north outer taxiway in ATL. Waiting for my gate because we were on time and our gate was occupied for another 20 minutes. Makes no sense does it? And we were on time despite having a reroute from BDL-ATL that took us over CLE.
But while sitting there I saw an MD88 come running down 26L for takeoff. I'm at the end of 26L and this sucker is getting closer, and closer, and closer, and not rotating. They had to be about 2000' from the end when they rotated and climbed out. Turns out it was a 9. Two planes later another 9 repeated the event.
So that made me think of this:
Finger in Butt Crack Sparks Knife Fight
DALLAS - A Dallas woman touched her friend's buttocks, sparking an assault and attempted stabbing, police said.
According to a police report, 22-year-old Laquita Mattox rubbed a finger along the victim's butt crack, prompting her to clench her buttocks. The victim claimed the clenching caused the bed she was sitting on to break, angering Mattox. A fight ensued in which Mattox repeatedly hit the victim before grabbing a butcher knife and threatening to kill her. According to the report, she said, "Are you ready to die?" The alleged victim called police and the suspect fled, the report stated.
The reason why I thought this is I didn't know butt clenching could break a bed, but it about broke a pilot seat on an MD88.
So, AWABS, like what is the takeoff run of a 9 on a 97F day in ATL?
Okay, some things have been embellished here, unfortunately not all of it. The news story is real.
Now follow me here, we're going on an adventure appropriate for friday night apcf and not to unlike I just went through with the movie Inception.
The other day I was holding short of ramp 2 on the north outer taxiway in ATL. Waiting for my gate because we were on time and our gate was occupied for another 20 minutes. Makes no sense does it? And we were on time despite having a reroute from BDL-ATL that took us over CLE.
But while sitting there I saw an MD88 come running down 26L for takeoff. I'm at the end of 26L and this sucker is getting closer, and closer, and closer, and not rotating. They had to be about 2000' from the end when they rotated and climbed out. Turns out it was a 9. Two planes later another 9 repeated the event.
So that made me think of this:
Finger in Butt Crack Sparks Knife Fight
DALLAS - A Dallas woman touched her friend's buttocks, sparking an assault and attempted stabbing, police said.
According to a police report, 22-year-old Laquita Mattox rubbed a finger along the victim's butt crack, prompting her to clench her buttocks. The victim claimed the clenching caused the bed she was sitting on to break, angering Mattox. A fight ensued in which Mattox repeatedly hit the victim before grabbing a butcher knife and threatening to kill her. According to the report, she said, "Are you ready to die?" The alleged victim called police and the suspect fled, the report stated.
The reason why I thought this is I didn't know butt clenching could break a bed, but it about broke a pilot seat on an MD88.
So, AWABS, like what is the takeoff run of a 9 on a 97F day in ATL? Okay, some things have been embellished here, unfortunately not all of it. The news story is real.

Sure it's been asked before, but I'll make it short:
If you're reserve and GS a 4-day trip that starts on a reserve day, and covers two X days with the fourth day originally a reserve day do you get GS pay for the fourth day?
In other words, assume a 4 day GS trip is awarded on day 1:
1. RES
2. X Day
3. X Day
4. RES
Does the X Day get paid back on day 4 and thus result in GS pay for day 4? (not to mention PB days for day 5 & 6?)
If you're reserve and GS a 4-day trip that starts on a reserve day, and covers two X days with the fourth day originally a reserve day do you get GS pay for the fourth day?
In other words, assume a 4 day GS trip is awarded on day 1:
1. RES
2. X Day
3. X Day
4. RES
Does the X Day get paid back on day 4 and thus result in GS pay for day 4? (not to mention PB days for day 5 & 6?)

Contract section 23 U is the applicable paragraph.A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALV1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
Denny
Gee from the looks of it I didn't think the MX group was missed at all. You FNWA guys certainly had the bottom of the barrel scabs doing your maintenance for you. Well as a former 20 yr ExNW mechanic and striker I knew we were not to be a part of the new Delta..You do know this merger was planned WELL in advance hence the plot to bust AMFA right? It's a shame NW as well as having the best SOC used to have the best maintenance program in the business at one time..
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Don't know that I can deceipher this contract language so I'll just post it for you to!
Contract section 23 U is the applicable paragraph.
Denny
Contract section 23 U is the applicable paragraph.A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALVa) interrupted his X-day(s), or
Denny
Looks to me the answer to my example is 2 days of GS pay for the 4 day trip.
Thanks ACL,
I have been scratching my head about the duty day since the PWA was hatched...
Thanks for the explanation, I am now ready to tackle the most exhausting five leg DC9 days that the big D can throw at Me !
I have been scratching my head about the duty day since the PWA was hatched...
Thanks for the explanation, I am now ready to tackle the most exhausting five leg DC9 days that the big D can throw at Me !
I'm still hearing an occasional whisper about a narrow body category in Guam. The usual "friend of a friend" of mine on the 4th floor deal. I hear that we settled down about it after the JAL deal died, but we are still studying it? Anyone, Bueller?
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