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Not a superior aviator, just a highly standardized part of a team. See the difference?
None of this are my musings alone. This is all well worn, well tested policy of many operators and regulators.
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The class roster posted at the Training Center as of yesterday showed 25 guys in the class for Monday, Aug 2nd. There will be two classes a month at 25 each.
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You may not like Delta's methods but they have produced results. Delta went 7 years flying over the Atlantic without a single gross navigational error. A record even more impressive when you consider we had more flights over the Atlantic then any other airline. In a MAC inspection where they rode on large number of cockpit observations flights Delta got the first 100 percent grade they ever awarded and a big part of their grading system is cockpit standardization.
We do have some differences from how NWA did things. We give our copilots a little more responsibility and give a little more authority to the Captain. The FAA however has never had a issue with how are cockpits are run in the last 20 years. I fly out of a large base with a different crew almost every flight. We operate very standardized cockpits. Everyone does know what they are expected to do contrary to your opinion.
Take the time to talk to some or your check airman who have actually flown on a large number of Delta flights.
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That was the basic philosophy behind every action being standardized.
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Same here.
If I do not move the flaps after the salute the Captain knows my head is somewhere else.
If I do not move the flaps after the salute the Captain knows my head is somewhere else.
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Carl, I am curious about how many Delta crews you have flown with and observed. I have a friend who is a check airman out of DTW on the 755. He has flown with a lot of Delta crews. The first thing he said to me after doing a bunch of observation flights was he that everything he heard was all wrong. He said your cockpits are every bit as standardized as ours. We heard you were cowboys and after several flights I realized we were all wrong.
You may not like Delta's methods but they have produced results. Delta went 7 years flying over the Atlantic without a single gross navigational error. A record even more impressive when you consider we had more flights over the Atlantic then any other airline. In a MAC inspection where they rode on large number of cockpit observations flights Delta got the first 100 percent grade they ever awarded and a big part of their grading system is cockpit standardization.
We do have some differences from how NWA did things. We give our copilots a little more responsibility and give a little more authority to the Captain. The FAA however has never had a issue with how are cockpits are run in the last 20 years. I fly out of a large base with a different crew almost every flight. We operate very standardized cockpits. Everyone does know what they are expected to do contrary to your opinion.
Take the time to talk to some or your check airman who have actually flown on a large number of Delta flights.
You may not like Delta's methods but they have produced results. Delta went 7 years flying over the Atlantic without a single gross navigational error. A record even more impressive when you consider we had more flights over the Atlantic then any other airline. In a MAC inspection where they rode on large number of cockpit observations flights Delta got the first 100 percent grade they ever awarded and a big part of their grading system is cockpit standardization.
We do have some differences from how NWA did things. We give our copilots a little more responsibility and give a little more authority to the Captain. The FAA however has never had a issue with how are cockpits are run in the last 20 years. I fly out of a large base with a different crew almost every flight. We operate very standardized cockpits. Everyone does know what they are expected to do contrary to your opinion.
Take the time to talk to some or your check airman who have actually flown on a large number of Delta flights.
What I see in Delta South cockpits is a high degree of adherence to policy. The problem is that the policy is too lacking in standardized roles. That's my opinion from what I see.
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Recent events should give you and all of us pause about the wisdom of this current policy. I know you know which ones I'm talking about.
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You bring up a good point. At my last airline, we had ship sets. We went to about the same 15 airports, but the airplanes went to mostly the same two or three (same aircraft, same route). The Jepps for those cities were well used - it wasn't crew abusing the charts, just normal use. Imagine the ATL charts being used 4+ times a day as the plane goes ATL-DCA-ATL-MCO-ATL-DFW or whatever.
3.) I think the captains and the F/O's could do the exterior walkaround after the captains started getting signed off to do them during OE. The captains just never did them, unless the F/O wasn't there or if it was 75 degrees in Miami and the Dolphins Cheerleaders were in the window taking pictures of the airplane. (See how I worked that in for you 80 and ftb?)
Whoops! I was looking at it on my phone originally and with the small font I thought for some reason NuGuy (names look semi similar I suppose) posted twice... with the first post being much nicer and suggesting cheerleaders. Ah, post redeye delirium....
Should have known! I don't know how to post pictures on my new tamPad yet, so that will come shortly.
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Should have known! I don't know how to post pictures on my new tamPad yet, so that will come shortly.
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A moment of pause for Miss Jennifer Aniston.
BTW, is it an okay time to complain that in the past two months or so, but especially this month, evidently the schedulers have tossed out looking at the PCS requests. #1 several times and blown off, no conflicts on my schedule, no conflicts with the other pilots. Just blown off and each time I've gone back to the RUO rules and the PWA and can't figure out how they got what they got other than arbitrarily assigning things. It wasn't like this until recently, my requests have always been honored and if they weren't I either could find the reason why or I made a call and the schedulers explained why and the reasons were sound. I've made one call recently and I'm not making any more, I'll leave it at that and we'll see if it gets better soon.
Now I'm going to go back to the beginning of the standardization conversation and start over...
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Guys,
If you get tired of fighting the 2008 version of North vs. South, I recommend the 1863 version. The technology and processes were so superior on the North side that the South didn't have a chance.
The Southern boys have been sharpshooters but they sure weren't standardized. And the North, they may have had technological superiority, but they couldn't adopt very quickly to a changing environment.
Oh wait, why are we even still arguing about history? I agree you must know your history to avoid repeating mistakes, but why keep arguing about it?
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If you get tired of fighting the 2008 version of North vs. South, I recommend the 1863 version. The technology and processes were so superior on the North side that the South didn't have a chance.
The Southern boys have been sharpshooters but they sure weren't standardized. And the North, they may have had technological superiority, but they couldn't adopt very quickly to a changing environment.
Oh wait, why are we even still arguing about history? I agree you must know your history to avoid repeating mistakes, but why keep arguing about it?
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