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Dash8widget 09-03-2010 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 865485)
May I add my 2 cents? As a former SO LCA on the old 727, we highly discouraged the SO to not run the packs while hooked up to ground power. The obvious reason was that if power dropped, the pack fans would turn off with an instantaneous dual pack overheat and corresponding smoke in the cabin. It's been awhile since I flew the 88 and 90 so I can't remember if it has a similar dilema but it seems like it did. So if you are running the APU and packs on the ground, make sure you are on APU power and not ground power.

Good points - on the 88, I think most people use the APU electrics if its running but I don't remember any specific guidance. On the 90 the power switching is automatic - if the APU is up with the gen on then that's what the airplane is using.

PilotFrog 09-03-2010 01:43 PM

So if we are just going from 767 to 7ER in SLC, I guess they don't plan on any 3 man crews. Semms to me they would need more FOs.

Dash8widget 09-03-2010 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 865461)
Can't remember about the 320 but on the 330 there is a limitation that says you cannot operate the packs and external air at the same time. Also, most times it is not that easy to get external air disconnected unles you do it yourself.

No such limitation on the MD (that I know of :eek:). Ground air enters in the mix manifold downstream of the packs so the presence of ground air has little, if any, affect on the operation of the packs.

iceman49 09-03-2010 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by IXLR8 (Post 865411)
There are still some issues with Delta's system that allow for auto rebooking of pax that miscon...I have seen many flights where there were "miscons" rebooked for the next morning, yet many of these pax actually made it to their flight for one reason or another (or were re-routed) and when that happens, the new booking for the next day does not cancel. It's a hard game to play...I am getting tired of it also...just have to get creative and find connections sometimes instead of non stops..:(

All the more reason to have better on time departures and arrivals. How many misconnects do we have because of late out of the first bank which keeps rolling all day.

Waves 09-03-2010 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 865510)
Good points - on the 88, I think most people use the APU electrics if its running but I don't remember any specific guidance. On the 90 the power switching is automatic - if the APU is up with the gen on then that's what the airplane is using.

Dash,

On the 727, we were having a rash of dual pack overheats for the reason I mentioned, so I got a restriction or warning (can't remember which) placed in our manuals. It was a really big deal for awhile because the PanAm SO's were basically doing everything their old way. We were actually told at an LCA meeting that if we were giving a line check to a PanAm SO and he wasn't doing it Delta's way, he would be terminated. They got real serious about that stuff.

Now that you pointed it out, I vaguely remember the 90 prevented that scenario. Don't tell anybody, but I kind of miss the 90. I don't miss the 88 though. Ha

acl65pilot 09-03-2010 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 865403)
"This bid will close at 12:00EDT on Wednesday, September 15th and will be effective for 210 days. Projected training start dates from this bid could be as early as October but we are currently planning for a majority of the training to start in January 2011, with all conversions being completed by April 2011.
We expect this bid to position us well to support the 2011 spring and summer scheduled flying. We plan to publish the next bid within the first quarter of 2011 to make any adjustments, as the summer flying plans are finalized by the Company."
************************
If a person is currently in training and bids off to another fleet, do you have to finish OE then back to the school house?? (Assume no freeze.)

Baja.


Yes. The conversion is not for next month but up to sometime next year. SO even if you are not even converted yet, you may have to go to your first training event.

acs020 09-03-2010 02:23 PM

I know this question was tossed around already...but here it goes.....Will this new AE result in more new hires? More than the original 300-ish this year? If so how many? Thank you guys and gals ahead of time for humoring my ignorant question

johnso29 09-03-2010 02:24 PM

So, increased utilization of NB's next summer? I thought this summer was rough. :p

Ralphie 09-03-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 865484)
Are those really even surpluses since they are just converting SLC767 to SLC7ER? Seems like it'd just be a wash, & we'd have well over 200 unfilled positions.

That's what I was trying to say, 360-180=180 unfilled posn.

Scoop 09-03-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 865485)
May I add my 2 cents? As a former SO LCA on the old 727,we highly discouraged the SO to not run the packs while hooked up to ground power. The obvious reason was that if power dropped, the pack fans would turn off with an instantaneous dual pack overheat and corresponding smoke in the cabin. It's been awhile since I flew the 88 and 90 so I can't remember if it has a similar dilema but it seems like it did. So if you are running the APU and packs on the ground, make sure you are on APU power and not ground power.

Waves,

You are losing me here - "...discouraged the SO to not run the packs while hooked up to ground power."

Reading this literally I think you are saying the LCA wanted guys to run the packs and external. Did you mean to say you "encouraged" guys to not run the packs while hooked up to the ground power."

I seem to remember it as the later, but its been a long time and since we had ROPEs back then, the only time I ever flew was on National Holidays. Of course I flew on every National Holiday. :D

Scoop


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