Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-18-2010, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I think they're the same thing.
They're not. Anything that we want now is totally based on what we currently have and what the new (pay rate, work rules, insurance coverage, pension, etc.) will be in relation to the profitability of the company, the other competitors similar rules/pay, etc. How does a SWA pilot (which only flies domestic, with only NB 737s, etc.) become the highest paid pax pilots. Wishing we could go back to Contract 2000 rates (with a pension, TOO) with COLAs can be a goal but living in the past is a poor way to go through life.
JMHO
09-18-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Yes, I've seen that and it surprises me. The surfing is great in DKR, but it has definately lost some popularity now that it doesn't include CPT. I've traded away a DKR-CPT-DKR for Christmas off. I could not have done that if it was just DKR.
The three day ACC is pretty senior, but that city is also making great strides in malaria prevention. From 2008 to 2009 it was down over 50%. I'm sure the 2010 numbers will show further reduction in malaria.
Having been thru DKR on the way to ABV though, I'd take DKR any day over ABV. That van ride lends new meaning to the term "I'll ride shotgun". I'm curious if the appeal of a 4 man trip will outweigh the health risks and personal safety concerns there.
Disclaimer: NYC 7ER is on my MD list.
The three day ACC is pretty senior, but that city is also making great strides in malaria prevention. From 2008 to 2009 it was down over 50%. I'm sure the 2010 numbers will show further reduction in malaria.
Having been thru DKR on the way to ABV though, I'd take DKR any day over ABV. That van ride lends new meaning to the term "I'll ride shotgun". I'm curious if the appeal of a 4 man trip will outweigh the health risks and personal safety concerns there.
Disclaimer: NYC 7ER is on my MD list.
09-18-2010, 07:31 PM
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DAL, I agree with every thing you said but imho, no pension. I hear this time to time while flying and others hear about it, but I do not ever want a pension and if anyone wants to know why (beyond what already has happened) just look at whats happening to government pensions below. It's best to have the money in our own accounts. Its easy to promise things but obviously it didn't work.
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht...(Q5CeWvQ3DqQ2F
Struggling states and cities need to save money, but they run into legal problems if they tamper with the pensions their current workers are building up year by year. So most places have opted to let current workers and retirees go unscathed. Colorado, Minnesota and South Dakota are the exceptions, dialing back cost-of-living increases for people who have already retired. All three states have reaped meaningful savings right away, and all three are being sued.
Cuts for workers not yet hired do not save much money in the present — but that’s where actuaries can work their magic. They capture the future savings for use today by assuming, in essence, that 100 percent of today’s work force is already earning tomorrow’s skimpier benefits. When used in actuarial calculations, that assumption has a powerful effect. It reduces the amount a government must put into its workers’ pension fund every year.
That saves the government money. But it undermines the pension fund, which must still pay the richer benefits of today’s retirees. And because the calculations are esoteric, it is hard for anyone except a seasoned actuary to see what is going on.
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Funding Pensions a Bigger Burden: http://www.pe.com/business/local/sto...9.20cb31c.html
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Was politics behind the government's decision to preserve the UAW's pensions?: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091706617.html
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht...(Q5CeWvQ3DqQ2F
Struggling states and cities need to save money, but they run into legal problems if they tamper with the pensions their current workers are building up year by year. So most places have opted to let current workers and retirees go unscathed. Colorado, Minnesota and South Dakota are the exceptions, dialing back cost-of-living increases for people who have already retired. All three states have reaped meaningful savings right away, and all three are being sued.
Cuts for workers not yet hired do not save much money in the present — but that’s where actuaries can work their magic. They capture the future savings for use today by assuming, in essence, that 100 percent of today’s work force is already earning tomorrow’s skimpier benefits. When used in actuarial calculations, that assumption has a powerful effect. It reduces the amount a government must put into its workers’ pension fund every year.
That saves the government money. But it undermines the pension fund, which must still pay the richer benefits of today’s retirees. And because the calculations are esoteric, it is hard for anyone except a seasoned actuary to see what is going on.
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Funding Pensions a Bigger Burden: http://www.pe.com/business/local/sto...9.20cb31c.html
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Was politics behind the government's decision to preserve the UAW's pensions?: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091706617.html
09-18-2010, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I wish we would further the whole ability to take "shotguns" with us on overseas flights!
Couldn't agree more. Sure would be nice, especially given the recent MEX memo.
09-18-2010, 08:04 PM
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FTB,
Be careful what you wish for.........You do have a pension now, it's just a defined contribution vs a defined benefit...... I know what you meant! I'm just givin' you the business!!
Denny
Be careful what you wish for.........You do have a pension now, it's just a defined contribution vs a defined benefit...... I know what you meant! I'm just givin' you the business!!
Denny
09-18-2010, 08:07 PM
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My BP is finally recovering from the Auburn game. Hopefully they learn how to play two halves soon.
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09-18-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
My BP is finally recovering from the Auburn game. Hopefully they learn how to play two halves soon.
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09-18-2010, 08:38 PM
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Hi!
Just saw the score. VERY glad we won! I saw when Clemson scored the first TD, but then had to leave and study a TON!
War Eagle!
cliff
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Just saw the score. VERY glad we won! I saw when Clemson scored the first TD, but then had to leave and study a TON!
War Eagle!
cliff
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09-18-2010, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Crap
Blocked kick seals 20-19 win for No. 11 Badgers - UWBadgers.com - The Official Web Site of the Wisconsin Badgers
ASU -19
Wisconsin - 20
Ferd <------------who wants to be in the top 25 anyway
Blocked kick seals 20-19 win for No. 11 Badgers - UWBadgers.com - The Official Web Site of the Wisconsin Badgers
ASU -19
Wisconsin - 20
Ferd <------------who wants to be in the top 25 anyway
09-18-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
$100, to any and all of you says tigers win in the auburn-clemson game.
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