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He needed some scope changes for all the connection carriers. He could however have easily completed the merger without DALPA onboard. It would have simply cost him some money. We actually recovered in the joint contract quite a bit more money then the estimated costs for the company to comply with the contract as written. He essentially paid for our cooperation. The contract extension was my hang up.
There are issues with a Alaska merger that would also be problems. Our reps are very aware of that and from talking with them would push for a complete early opening of the contract if a merger with Alaska were to come to pass. The only way however the company is going to go that route is if they feel that someone else is going to make a run on Alaska.

In hindsight wasn't the extension a good thing? Was it not up in 09? That would not have been a good environment for negotiations.

forgot to bid

11-26-2010 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 907071)

Should Satchip be scared that you were dreaming about him again?:p

I do have a reoccurring dream of missing the van and the ER taking off without me (so that must be Satch unless he's in the Pam Beasley dreams, awkward) leaving me behind in Pakistan. Then I was supposed to deadhead out but missed the van again. It's so painful. I love the maddog.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 907071)

Heard there might be a little football game played today that the two of you might be interested in...

There's only two ways this can go...

happy FTB:
http://www.rightupyouralley.ca/.a/6a...ddce970c-320wi

Or

http://www.synergizedsolutions.com/s...rpointbutt.gif

And vice versa for Satch.

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 907073)

Well I'll be doing the 4 leg FLA tour today so no game for me. I'll have to watch it Sunday when I get back. Wanna come to San Antonio FTB? One of us. Will need the Nyquil!

Is valium over the counter? I'll actually watch it and not tivo it if I could have valium.

Little known fact, the better Auburn plays (as in undefeated) the fewer games I watch. I tivo them and get updates on the iphone. If we win I watch, if we don't I don't. I won't even check APCF, I had to watch the super bowl a quarter late thanks to a family medical issue. I was in the 2nd quarter when someone on here mentioned the score. D'OH what was I thinking.

slowplay

11-26-2010 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 907074)

In hindsight wasn't the extension a good thing? Was it not up in 09? That would not have been a good environment for negotiations.

Without LOA-19/JCBA we would have opened April 1, 2009. That would have been outstanding timing for management...not so much for us. Oh, and the average guy wouldn't have over $50,000 in stock in their retirement plan either.

StormChaser

11-26-2010 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 906996)

you know, its thanksgiving, i was awarded it off!! and I'm sick. The irony. I thought you called in sick to get holidays off, not got them off and got sick.

I feel your pain. I did a personal drop to get turkey day and today off and I've been sick with the flu since Monday. :mad: Go figure!

johnso29

11-26-2010 06:51 AM

Anybody know where we can get replacement buttons for our blazers? I'm down one. It went missing in action yesterday, so now my blazer has 5 buttons. Looks silly. :(

DAL 88 Driver

11-26-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 907084)

Not saying you're wrong. But I also think your statement is short sighted. Any number of scenarios could have developed had we started negotiating in April, 2009. Typically, negotiations drag out for a while... that's the conventional wisdom on the forum, right? So we could have ended up concluding negotiations right about now. Significant restoration to our pay would put at least an additional $50,000 into our pay in ONE YEAR. I'd take that over $50K in airline stock anytime! So, who knows what would have actually happened? But to proclaim that things have turned out better for us by extending our BK/emergency pay to 2012 is at the very least short sighted IMO.

Bucking Bar

11-26-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 906788)

So much to be thankful for I don't know if I can list it all. I'm thankful for my Beautiful Wife & amazing Daughter who fill my life with joy and happiness everyday. I'm thankful for my wonderful family & friends who accept me for who I am. I'm thankful for our house, clothes, cars, motorcycle, & a job which provides the means to have all these things. I'm thankful to have a job that I enjoy so much. I'm thankful for all the people in this world who help make it such a beautiful place. I'm thankful for being so blessed everyday. I'm thankful I can wake up everyday and realize I HAVE these things to be thankful for. I'm thankful for being so loved, & for being able to love in return. Please take time today to be thankful for what you have, & to let your family let know how much you love them.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. :)

Hear, HEAR!

Tip of the hat in your direction.

Particularly when you see how many people live in parts of the World we junior folk travel to. Often I get back and simply can't believe my fortuity to have been born in the U.S., be in the middle of a great family and have an avocation that's enjoyable.

80ktsClamp

11-26-2010 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 907107)

You're exactly right, 88. For being so for the "facts," slow is assuming a huge amount in what he is saying, whereas what you're saying is just as likely to be true.

slowplay

11-26-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 907115)

You're exactly right, 88. For being so for the "facts," slow is assuming a huge amount in what he is saying, whereas what you're saying is just as likely to be true.

You're correct about the assumptions, but history is a guide.

If we'd opened for "restoration" in April, 2009, are there any companies with parallel tracks we could model after? AMR maybe? Where are they now after 3 years of Section 6? Didn't the NMB just park them again?

Bucking Bar

11-26-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AHDRVR (Post 906326)

So I guess the AFA gets to spend millions campaigning, in addition to enjoying the newly imposed election criteria that they were generously awarded by the Dept of Labor (rules that seriously tilt the odds for union representation), and the company is supposed to just sit back and do nothing? Are you serious? There is absolutely nothing RA could have said that the union wouldn't have distorted to fit their accusations. Hopefully the NMB will do the right thing and base their decision on facts.

So ... at a bus stop a Crew Bus arrives with "Decision 2010" emblazoned on the side. A Flight Attendant asks me "don't you think that is interference?" "It is like Coke advertising." ... eh' you talking to me?

I don't know what's in the FA Crew Lounge, but the argument the vote was influenced by painting vote reminders on the Crew Bus seems laking any merit what so ever.

The AFA lost this vote because they failed to focus on the fundamentals. The AFA failed to explain a union's relevance is it's ability to bring together workers to prevent outsourcing.

If I was running the AFA drive, I'd make a poster (including pay) of Singapore's Cabin Staff on one side and Delta's on the other and ask, "if neither has a union, which would you keep?"

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