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Originally Posted by JABDIP
(Post 926841)
My question to you is how has the current scope language prevented DCI from flying hub to hub, ie. DTW- ATL-DTW?????;)
For comparison the Alaska flying is "providing feed" and is limited to flying no more than 25% of all hub-to-hub flights. Outside of hat AS can pretty much fly anywhere in the world with the 86-seat limitation on carrying the DL code. Cheers George |
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
(Post 926666)
...I happen to believe "SCOPE!!" is the boogy man du jour for those who, for whatever reason, have an agenda. It's keeping us from unifying and focusing on the real agenda of contract restoration.
I'm pretty sure its part of the restoration like a siamese twin. If we get great rates but the flying leaves we can claim "victory" for restoration but all but the top 10% will feel the consequences... Cheers George |
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Originally Posted by Jabberwock
(Post 926831)
Of course a small jet feeds a larger jet in a hub, but there is no distinction between a DC9, an E175, or a 737. We woudl lose flow if we parked the 747's too. All these jets are integral parts of our network. The distinctions are meaningless and only butter our egos into believing we are only outsourcing flying we do not want to perform.
The sad thing is we have LEC reps that put stuff like "this flying is beneath us" in writing... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 926642)
I think it is naive and foolish to believe the scope line is set in stone.
Right now our MEC mission statement doesn't include any language directing it to recapture or extend the amount of Delta flying that is performed by Delta pilots. I for one would sleep better if our association's mission statement included scope language. Maybe it's time to add that. Cheers George |
Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 926856)
Thanks for the answer, but it doesn't work. When I look at Leisure Travel the drop down it only gives me Flight Availability & Listings, Employee Award Travel or Interline Travel. I haven't paid up my annual fee yet, could that keep the tab from appearing?
Thanks for the tip, I wouldn't be surprised if it costs less just buying one. |
Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 926840)
Can someone explain to me how to get to the Fly Confirmed For Less page at Travelnet? I can't find it.
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Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 926884)
It isn't set in stone, and that's the problem.
Right now our MEC mission statement doesn't include any language directing it to recapture or extend the amount of Delta flying that is performed by Delta pilots. I for one would sleep better if our association's mission statement included scope language. Maybe it's time to add that. Cheers George Most of the guys with less than ten years left will be looking out for number one....that is to say their own pay and retirement dollars. This will likely mimic the age 65 process (majority voted against it but the top dogs in ALPA pushed for it and justified it after the fact). They operate on the principal it is better to try to get forgiveness after the fact than it is to gain permission. |
To those of you here who have inside ties to ALPA leadership...
If you disagree with the above statements, you can do one thing to put this argument to rest... Get DALPA leadership (and ALPA national for that matter) to put out a statement clearly laying out their stance on scope. Something like this: 1. NOT ONE MORE SEAT OR FLYING JOB WILL BE PASSED FROM MAINLINE TO REGIONAL OR ANY OTHER AFFILIATE INCLUDING CODE SHARES. 2. PARALLEL TO OUR MISSION TO RESTORE PAY WE WILL BRING THE FLYING FROM REGIONALS AND CODESHARES BACK TO INDIVIDUAL MAINLINE AIRLINES. |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 926873)
Actually our Section 1 is pretty specific about DCI flying when it comes to hub-to-hub. DCI is limited to 6% of all hub-to-hub flying and is specifically required to provide hub feed.
For comparison the Alaska flying is "providing feed" and is limited to flying no more than 25% of all hub-to-hub flights. Outside of hat AS can pretty much fly anywhere in the world with the 86-seat limitation on carrying the DL code. Cheers George |
Originally Posted by JABDIP
(Post 926922)
Exactly who keeps up with that little tid bit of information on a hub to hub DCI flight????? That is a joke.:eek:
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