Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

Going2Baja 01-20-2011 11:59 AM

The FMS section of the systems home study is PAINFUL!!! Wish I could take a test and 'opt out' of the 2 hour study guide.

Baja.

Bucking Bar 01-20-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 932701)
Its been pointed out many times that scope was the last thing settled on the last several contracts. It was not concluded until long after everything else was done. When the allowed more E170/175's we did not get paybacks in other contract areas. It was forced on us by circumstances and the 1113 process.

That is incorrect and I do not think you were proporting to speak for the Northwest pilots' negotiations, not that there was a whole heck of a lot of difference. Delta followed the same model NWA did with similar results. It remains a fact that no Judge has ever invalidated a scope clause.

A negotiation took place where scope relaxation was monetized in the form of bargaining credits and distributed amongst other parts of the contract(s). The Negotiator's Notepad publications, ZipLines and Testimony all document what happened.

Wilbur Wright 01-20-2011 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 933320)
Correct. A VD uses the seniority of the guy getting MDed to get in to the new seat, and then your system seniority applies.

The exception to that is if someone is using a VD to the same airplane type. If a senior MSP MD88 FO elects to take a VD to ATL MD88 FO, he'll be able to use his seniority, not the seniority of the junior pilot who would be displace.

I was able to take advantage of this first hand. When there were displacements in ATL, I was able to take a VD from the ATL7ER to LAX7ER even though the junior ATL 7ER pilots were not senior enough to hold LAX. To be honest, I wasn't aware of the exception at the time and was surprised when I was awarded the position. Another testimony to "Bid what you want, want what you bid."

Ferd149 01-20-2011 12:49 PM

Bored (yes I should be doing my training CD, but) and ran across this. I used to watch the "Banana Boats" go past AZ State when I was a kid and my goal was to be a Hughes pilot someday. Guess you can say I made it.

But, looking at the route map, can you imagine how little we would need Alaska if Republic would have had the balls to run a western airline?

http://theflavor.com/wp-content/uplo...rwest-4-sm.jpg

and what about combined with this one?

http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usc/wes...apwa850904.jpg

I've always been interested in the "what could have been" in history.

Going2Baja 01-20-2011 12:54 PM

Ferd - Nice find! That would be nice wouldn't it!

Baja.

Ferd149 01-20-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 933357)
Ferd - Nice find! That would be nice wouldn't it!

Baja.

Thanks, but I do have to admit I was looking for flight attendant pictures. There are a couple of senior mommas in LAX (and commute from PHX) that I would love to embarrass with yellow gogo boot pictures:D

Nosmo King 01-20-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 933246)
It is my understanding that at the next MEC Meeting the Flight Pay Loss Committee will be taking input and giving recommendations.

This is not an answer to my question, but a deflection. Follow the money.


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 933296)
Scambo?

Duuuude...not an insider. I am and always have been a line pilot. Volunteered for a committee many years ago, didn't have a mustache. I would also like to see FPL data posted monthly on the DALPA website.

My bad, must be those Delta crew meals clogging up my remaining memory cells.

iceman49 01-20-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 933351)
Bored (yes I should be doing my training CD, but) and ran across this. I used to watch the "Banana Boats" go past AZ State when I was a kid and my goal was to be a Hughes pilot someday. Guess you can say I made it.

But, looking at the route map, can you imagine how little we would need Alaska if Republic would have had the balls to run a western airline?

http://theflavor.com/wp-content/uplo...rwest-4-sm.jpg

and what about combined with this one?

http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usc/wes...apwa850904.jpg

I've always been interested in the "what could have been" in history.

Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it!
Took the Banana Boat to survival school!

Going2Baja 01-20-2011 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 933370)
Thanks, but I do have to admit I was looking for flight attendant pictures.

I was looking the other day for "flight attendant on airbus cockpit desk." Couldn't seem to find one. LOL!!

Baja.

acl65pilot 01-20-2011 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 933387)
This is not an answer to my question, but a deflection. Follow the money.



My bad, must be those Delta crew meals clogging up my remaining memory cells.


It is not a deflection, it is an answer to the status of the Committee created by a Resolution from a LEC.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:40 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands