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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 933246)
It is my understanding that at the next MEC Meeting the Flight Pay Loss Committee will be taking input and giving recommendations.
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 933296)
Scambo?
Duuuude...not an insider. I am and always have been a line pilot. Volunteered for a committee many years ago, didn't have a mustache. I would also like to see FPL data posted monthly on the DALPA website.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 933423)
It is not a deflection, it is an answer to the status of the Committee created by a Resolution from a LEC.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 933334)
That is a mischaracterization (to put it nicely). Delta followed the same model NWA did with similar results. It remains a fact that no Judge has ever invalidated a scope clause.
A negotiation took place where scope relaxation was monetized in the form of bargaining credits and distributed amongst other parts of the contract(s). The Negotiator's Notepad publications, ZipLines and Testimony all document what happened. I try and read every document from the union. I never saw one that stated they were able to trade scope for other improvements at Delta. As far as a judge invalidating scope its never really been a issue so of course no judge has ruled on it. If you go back and read the court transcripts if they are still available you will see the judge seemed to have no question in his mind it was within his authority. |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 933396)
Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I we know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it! Took the Banana Boat to survival school! Just curious, How did NW's cost structure in PHX and LAS compare to SWA at the time? Could that perhaps have had something to do with losing those hubs? |
Could be, don't believe that they had much of a presence at that time in those spots in 86.
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 933370)
Thanks, but I do have to admit I was looking for flight attendant pictures. There are a couple of senior mommas in LAX (and commute from PHX) that I would love to embarrass with yellow gogo boot pictures:D
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
(Post 933415)
I was looking the other day for "flight attendant on airbus cockpit desk." Couldn't seem to find one. LOL!!
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 933488)
google image searches can be very entertaining. Within the last week I had brained my damage on something and threw in the word CNNSI in the images.google.com search instead of in the address window. Go ahead and give it a whirl and see what comes up.
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Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 933396)
Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it! Took the Banana Boat to survival school! Overall, I'm encouraged..........now if they will just put more flying into LAX:D |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 933509)
Overall, I'm encouraged..........now if they will just put more flying into LAX:D
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 933441)
Just curious, How did NW's cost structure in PHX and LAS compare to SWA at the time? Could that perhaps have had something to do with losing those hubs?
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