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Old 02-14-2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Again.. just an illustration. Actually after hearing all the details about this particular story, I am sure there was no drama being fed... the captain in this case was a being a total toolbag..
You were not even there, and your conclusion is that the captain was a toolbag.

We'll always have problems here if we continue to believe second hand accounts that "prove" our preconceived stereotypes of each other.

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Old 02-14-2011 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
Lol I'm in my 20s! I'm female though so naturally I don't have as much arm strength as men do, that's just simply not the way most women are built. Like I said, I CAN lift my bag, but I think its really nice when people offer to help that it is much easier for. And I'll repeat, I don't EXPECT it ever. I help passengers all the time that have trouble, like if they have extra stuff because they are carrying a baby and need help opening a stroller, or are walking to a wheel chair and have bags that if I carried to the wheel chair would be a lot easier for them. All I'm saying is I think its nice when people offer help.
We have female pilots in their 20's? I'll be damned. For some reason I was picturing a 62 year old flying a heavy that can barely move. Sorry. FWIW, I always help the flight attendants with their bags if they ask, or if I see them struggling. We're all on the same team. It also doesn't hurt that my mom's a flight attendant.

These message boards do not do a very good job at portraying people. In reality, I'm one of the most hated pilots to fly with, but on this board I come off as everyone's favorite poster. Wait, maybe I have that backwards.
Old 02-14-2011 | 11:59 AM
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I got rid of my ALPA magazine subscription a while ago. Someone just showed me the cover. Has anyone got an airsickness bag handy?
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Really tsquare? You're going to equate saving a plane load of lives by doing the job of blocking, with someone being injured by helping you because you won't handle your own personal affairs?

I appreciate the females who try to handle things themselves. When I see that they can't, I help. I just wish they would understand that men are men. We are hard-wired to help them. When they don't handle their own affairs, the health of others can be jeopardized...even when they are trying to lift it themselves.

And it's not a hypothetical. It happened to a good friend and he was out for a long time.

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Yeah I guess that your FO couldn''t get the aircraft on the ground without the great and powerful Carl... besides, you totally miss the point. And we all know someone that has lost his/her job because of injury. No one is saying that you HAVE to lift bags into the overhead. If they expect that.. they are in the wrong.. absolutely. But you started the guilt trip line, and I was asking if you would feel guilty that some FA saves your bacon so you could go talk on the radio... but you answered that with the word job...


.. and it was hypothetical, because you used the first person pronoun, I. Besides what relevance would her feelings about that have anyway? If you hurt your back helping her out, should she come to your house and clean your toilets for free? What are you looking for here?
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer X
Yup. Many people feel the same way.

Problem is that many forgot or many were not even here or on the street to remember.

I wont names any slow names.
And it is in no way bad to understand this. You're not really part of a "family" if you can be furloughed if there's too many of you at the table. Or fired if you make the rest of the family mad. Or have your future membership in the family terminated in bankruptcy.

I remember when Dave Garrett was CEO at Delta. That was the culture then. He was a giant in the industry, and a real innovator with regard to employee relations. That died with the next CEO.

It's understandable to long for those days, but it's not rational to pretend they still exist.

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Old 02-14-2011 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
I got rid of my ALPA magazine subscription a while ago. Someone just showed me the cover. Has anyone got an airsickness bag handy?
I don't get it.

Its a trade publication, everybody I know that gets one in their own business thinks they are pretty lame also, but there is usually a piece of info or two worth knowing about.
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You were not even there, and your conclusion is that the captain was a toolbag.

We'll always have problems here if we continue to believe second hand accounts that "prove" our preconceived stereotypes of each other.

Carl
You are right, I wasn't there. But I believe her story. Not just because he was a 747 captain.. but because of the other parts that were apparently playing out. But I will amend my post to read as follows: the captain was allegedly a toolbag.

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Old 02-14-2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
For the most part I agree with you. But the culture that you seem to disdain is a little more genteel on the fDAL side, and that is my beef with this particular thread creep. Personally.. and I have come full circle with this... I prefer it stay the way it was at fDAL.
If you mean the way we employees treat each other, I agree with you.

But if you mean that we need to cave-in to management's "me too" issue in order to ensure that other employee groups don't hate us, that's where we differ. You're not really saying that are you?

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Old 02-14-2011 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
If you mean the way we employees treat each other, I agree with you.

But if you mean that we need to cave-in to management's "me too" issue in order to ensure that other employee groups don't hate us, that's where we differ. You're not really saying that are you?

Carl
Of course not. But as I said to Sink (I think) If you help them understand, they might be more understanding.....
Old 02-14-2011 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I don't get it.

Its a trade publication, everybody I know that gets one in their own business thinks they are pretty lame also, but there is usually a piece of info or two worth knowing about.

The obits.... other than that... not really.
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