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Sec 23 question....
I have a 4 day on 3/9 with a LCA. As of now the only other trip in open time starts earlier then my original show, so I know they can't give me that if I get pulled for OE. However, there is a 3 day that starts on 3/10. Can they give me that since it finishes on the same calendar day as my original 4 day? The report is also earlier then my original report. I just wasn't sure if they can assign an open time trip to me on 3/8 that reports on 3/10. |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 957481)
My apologies to the board for my poor behavior last night. PMs have been sent.........
I hope good carma returns. Your humble Jackwagon, Ferd Well not us. How about we watch others hug it out. Super? Where are you? Any ideas? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 957487)
We need to hug it out.
Well not us. How about we watch others hug it out. Super? Where are you? Any ideas? When someones giving you crap... you just start tickling them. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 957485)
Sec 23 question....
I have a 4 day on 3/9 with a LCA. As of now the only other trip in open time starts earlier then my original show, so I know they can't give me that if I get pulled for OE. However, there is a 3 day that starts on 3/10. Can they give me that since it finishes on the same calendar day as my original 4 day? The report is also earlier then my original report. I just wasn't sure if they can assign an open time trip to me on 3/8 that reports on 3/10. Regular First Offi cers Removed for OE If a regular First Offi cer is removed from his entire rotation for another pilot’s OE, he will be subject to recovery fl ying under Section 23 G. 5. a. 1. The Company must attempt to notify him of his recovery fl ying at least 12 hours prior to his original report. If he has not been assigned recovery fl ying by that time, he has no further recovery obligation. 2. He can be assigned a single rotation that reports on any day of the original rotation but no earlier than his original report, and releases no later than 4 hours after his original release or the same calendar day, whichever is later. a. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made within 24 3. If he is removed from all or part of his recovery rotation, he cannothours of his original report and the recovery flying reports on the same day as the originally scheduled rotation, he will only be assigned recovery flying under Section 23 N. 3 (after white slips). b. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made more than 24 hours prior to his original report, or the recovery flying reports after A day of the original rotation, he will be assigned recovery flying prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N. 1. be assigned additional recovery flying. 4. If he has not acknowledged his recovery fl ying three hours prior to his original report, the recovery fl ying may be removed, and he will be subject to recovery fl ying under Section 23 K. 1. (Refer to “Regular Pilots Removed for IROPS” above.) Example 1: A First Offi cer is scheduled for a rotation reporting on Wednesday at 1600 and releasing on Friday at 1700. The LCP removes him from the rotation for another pilot’s OE, and he acknowledges his assigned recovery fl ying no later than 1300 on Wednesday. Results: 1. The company may assign him a single recovery rotation no later than 0400 on Wednesday. 2. Recovery fl ying may report no earlier than 1600 on Wednesday and must be scheduled to release no later than 2359 on Friday. 3. After 1600 on Tuesday, the company may assign him recovery fl ying reporting on Wednesday only under Section 23 N.3 (after white slips). 4. The Company may assign him to recovery fl ying reporting on Thursday or Friday prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N.1. 5. If no recovery fl ying is assigned by 0400 on Wednesday, he has no further recovery obligation. Rotation Guarantee Recovery (23 K.) A regular pilot who is removed from a rotation due to IROPS affecting his rotation (other than an FAR 30-in-7 conflict or under Section 23 G. 5. a. 2), and who is notified of the change to such rotation before the airborne departure of its first flight segment, will remain available and may be assigned and must report for recovery flying as described in Section 23 K. 1. and 2. A pilot who is projected to exceed the FAR 30-in-7 limitation will be removed from all or part of his rotation, and is not subject to recovery flying. (Section 23 K. 3. and 4.) The Company has a single opportunity to assign a pilot recovery flying. If the pilot is subsequently removed from the recovery rotation, he cannot be assigned a second recovery rotation. A pilot may be released from recovery obligation if he waives his rotation guarantee and Crew Scheduling agrees to release him. Under certain circumstances, a pilot who is assigned recovery flying may be entitled to a hotel room at his base (Section 5 E. 1. c. and d.). (See also: WSC pages 32-33 and TWG Notepad 09-11) |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 957490)
I think another idea from the Office is appropriate. In the hood, we called it "fluffy fingers."
When someones giving you crap... you just start tickling them. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 957485)
Sec 23 question....
I have a 4 day on 3/9 with a LCA. As of now the only other trip in open time starts earlier then my original show, so I know they can't give me that if I get pulled for OE. However, there is a 3 day that starts on 3/10. Can they give me that since it finishes on the same calendar day as my original 4 day? The report is also earlier then my original report. I just wasn't sure if they can assign an open time trip to me on 3/8 that reports on 3/10. |
Today in class, a fourth floor management type said that DAL now has contracts on 56 MD-90s. Something was mentioned about JAL birds.
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
(Post 957442)
ronnie,
For whatever reason, you have to enter your own Training times or you will not get perdiem. Go to ICrew, look under the PAY/HOURS tab and then find EXPENSES and eventually the link for ADD/UPDATE TRAINING EXPENSES. I do it from the start to end of my Training DH flights. I'm a DALS guy, but I never knew that. Talk about Amish. sheesh. |
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 957520)
Today in class, a fourth floor management type said that DAL now has contracts on 56 MD-90s. Something was mentioned about JAL birds.
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 957514)
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