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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 965107)
Is it the Republic certificate that does the UsAir flying? I think so.........
Anyway, the UsAir E175's are configured to single class 86 seats. It is. S9 only flies for UAL and DAL. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965093)
I did not say it made sense. Also our MEH code share agreement is over. If they connect to a F9 flight, we should check and see if there is an inter line agreement for baggage. If there is, dig deeper. Reality is that DAL will put the RJET jets where they make DAL the most money. (or lose the least :D )
At the end of the day this language has not changed since the JPWA and we ratified it. We have to stop doing that. Read it. Understand it. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965084)
No he did not.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965098)
I do, and I am trying to get you to see, that ALPA issues and all, is a lot better than an independent. A new independent will get steamrolled by the issues we are facing.
They are international in nature and only ALPA has influence there. Fact! 15 years is a heck of a lot of time. If all you want is what is best for your and you do not leave it better than where it is at, then I understand. Fact is that we need to work towards unifying ourselves on the National front, and ALPA is the mechanism in which to do it, no matter how much you hate em. Ergo, fix it. On another line... How much are we gonna spend on the ATI-SWA merger when it is a FACT that they will be leaving the association? |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 965114)
And again, I hear Bill Preston in that 1970s classic in my head.
I've got a song I ain't got no melody How'm I gonna sing it with my friends I've got a song I ain't got no melody How'm I gonna sing it with my friends Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky I've got a dance ain't got no steps I'm gonna let the music move me around I've got a dance I ain't got no steps I'm gonna let the music move me around Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky I've got a song I ain't got no melody How'm I gonna sing it with my friends I've got a song I ain't got no melody How'm I gonna sing it with my friends Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky Will it go round in circles Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 965085)
They aren't exactly receptive to those who might rattle the cage...
Imagine if enacting change on the national level in congress required first to go to your city, then to your county, then if approved state house, then state senate, then let go and see if your ideas get through conference committees, then the governor and then maybe your congressional representative, then a house conference committee... it's a barrier. That's why elections are great. Open elections. Let the pilots speak for themselves not only for the local representative, like we do, but for the one on top as well. That way when someone who wants to fight for change, say Tsquare, doesn't have to fight to get his name on the ballot and then fight insiders during the election. In a way, the teachers in WI are going to have 1 benefit imho and that's every year they get to vote in or out their union. They can have a no confidence vote, something ALPA is immune too and therefore, unaccountable to outsiders (us). So there, my wish list- vote ALPA in or out every year or maybe every 2 years. That's the kind of competition I wish we had and I'm surprised the union wouldn't accept that, after all, they surely have more than 50%+1 support. http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1300296358 |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 965117)
Well they have no competition. DPA has a ways to go right now and so ALPA knows that they are not accountable. A lot of people aren't interested in resolutions and meetings because it's an absolute barrier.
Imagine if enacting change on the national level in congress required first to go to your city, then to your county, then if approved state house, then state senate, then let go and see if your ideas get through conference committees, then the governor and then maybe your congressional representative, then a house conference committee... it's a barrier. That's why elections are great. Open elections. Let the pilots speak for themselves not only for the local representative, like we do, but for the one on top. That way when someone who wants to fight for change, say Tsquare, doesn't have to fight to get his name on the ballot and then fight insiders during the election. In a way, the teachers in WI are going to have 1 benefit imho and that's every year they get to vote in or out their union. They can have a no confidence vote, something ALPA is immune too and therefore, unaccountable to outsiders (us). That's the kind of competition I wish we had. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 964768)
Reality is that with the Code Share in place there is no way DAL will willfully do this. Sounds good, and is a good "red meat" moment, but the reality is that DAL has what they want, and until it is threatened by an external force the status quo will prevail.
My personal opinion is if DAL needs to feed our Asia ops quickly Virgin America becomes our bed mate. AS is much more preferable on many levels. If you recall, even Virgin cannot sustain themselves' on these routes. They are bleeding competing with AS, and have focused on easier targets like DFW. Contrary to what many ppl think the N-S traffic on the West Coast cannot support the competition that the East Coast does. It has been this way since deregulation. And of course DL would never do that unless and until AK was dancing with someone else. That's what I meant. Clearly management is happy with their 737 Delta Connection on the west coast. And by west coast I mean both coasts. I don't really see the value in VA though. It would risk giving them the windfall of the century WRT an SLI if they were able to get a seat at the table, and with the McCaskill law and trend of relative SLI's lately is a real risk, "red meat moments" aside. And they bring nothing of value whatsoever other than a few more JFK slots. Anything else they do we can do ourselves. Their Airbus fleet is new and completely debt, so why do a messy merger with them when we could just go to Airbus and get an identical fleet ourselves and probably at a cheaper price since we could pencil in a couple hundred options (or LOI' etc) for 2 or 300 more of the NEO's while we're at it? Oh BTW Boeing just announced their cleen sheet numbers for their 737 replacement. 15% savings. LOL! They will sell 600 to SWA and hundreds around the world, but for any carrier with Airbus products, as long as Airbus plays ball with the price (and they will) the NEO will be available a lot sooner and odds are with a lot less issues because the only difference is the engines. The rest is a proven platform. And while Boeing might pretend to claim they "get it" WRT their outsourcing orgy on the 787, they haven't nor do they care, especially about narrowbody trash. They are too target fixated on the heavy metal and military cash cow to care enough to get the 737/797/whatever right. And for what, the same efficency targets and STILL not a common cockit! LOL! |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965087)
Well you should. P2P is looking for pilots, your LEC Chairman is looking for volunteers at the LEC level. I say persistence pays off. If I counted the times I have been told No, I would be a rich man. It never deters me, and it should not deter you.
What happened, you finally got eternally drunk off the kool-aid and were therefore let into the "club"? |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 965093)
At the end of the day this language has not changed since the JPWA and we ratified it. We have to stop doing that. Read it. Understand it.
Cheers George |
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