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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965081)

Then write a resolution, and work the process. If the majority of the members (which are mainline pilots at national) agree, the structure changes. :eek:

I only have 15 years left at DAL....

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965087)

Well you should. P2P is looking for pilots, your LEC Chairman is looking for volunteers at the LEC level. I say persistence pays off. If I counted the times I have been told No, I would be a rich man. It never deters me, and it should not deter you.

You truly don't get it do you?

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965059)

CHQ can do branded flying for F9 and us because they do not fly anything large enough to be in violation, and you know I am not trying to dodge anything. Also, its a map, not a contract. :rolleyes:

Tell me, does Shuttle america fly anything larger than 76 seats for anyone else?

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 965074)

Another issue, why does DAL continue to fund a competitor? Is it a double edged sword? Is it better to pay RAH to operate DCI flights on routes that compete with F9 in hopes of taking the revenue over F9, rather then use a different DCI carrier?

I did not say it made sense. Also our MEH code share agreement is over. If they connect to a F9 flight, we should check and see if there is an inter line agreement for baggage. If there is, dig deeper. Reality is that DAL will put the RJET jets where they make DAL the most money. (or lose the least :D )

At the end of the day this language has not changed since the JPWA and we ratified it. We have to stop doing that. Read it. Understand it.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 965092)

Tell me, does Shuttle america fly anything larger than 76 seats for anyone else?

No but Republic (another certificate) does, the 190 for F9, formerly MEH Connect.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 965090)

You truly don't get it do you?

I do, and I am trying to get you to see, that ALPA issues and all, is a lot better than an independent. A new independent will get steamrolled by the issues we are facing.

They are international in nature and only ALPA has influence there. Fact!

15 years is a heck of a lot of time. If all you want is what is best for your and you do not leave it better than where it is at, then I understand. Fact is that we need to work towards unifying ourselves on the National front, and ALPA is the mechanism in which to do it, no matter how much you hate em. Ergo, fix it.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965095)

No but Republic (another certificate) does, the 190 for F9, formerly MEH Connect.

So, what was your point with pointing out that Shuttle was omitted from the route map? squirmy squirmy ;)

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965076)

I also will ask a question for content.

Do you think it is wise strategically for those polling results to get out to the public, and to us? I say heck no, because then the company knows exactly where we are as a group and how to effectively marginalize us. They need to be kept secret.

As for the second part, of the MEC meetings that I have witnessed, the Reps would take great offense to your assertion. These Reps know what they want, and sometimes that is in line with this or that, but the reality is they direct the MEC, and frankly that is the way this Administration's Master Chair sees it.

These Reps are type A's and will not just rubber stamp everything. Call your reps. You elected them for a reason, and if this were to ever go on, I am very certain the majority of the MEC Reps would call BS, abet quietly and in closed session. Why? because somethings are better not aired to the public and to the company.

ACL...I explained the distribution of the polling results, not to debate the need for confidentiality - which I certainly recognize - but merely to explain the process for those that are unfamiliar. You are obviously used to being on the defensive. My point was that the results aren't easily presented for thorough review.

As to the second part, many LEC reps in the past have called BS...but often the TA has already been just that - "tentatively agreed" to.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965093)

The issue here is that we are guaranteeing RJET profits by "competiting" on the same route with their airplanes. Those are guaranteed profit operations for S9 and CHQ (not at risk flying) that we are sending on the routes against RJET.

(my beef here is both with our management and with ALPA, btw)

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 965092)

Tell me, does Shuttle america fly anything larger than 76 seats for anyone else?

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965095)

No but Republic (another certificate) does, the 190 for F9, formerly MEH Connect.

Is it the Republic certificate that does the UsAir flying? I think so.........
Anyway, the UsAir E175's are configured to single class 86 seats.