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hoserpilot 03-16-2011 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by RickyBobby (Post 964785)
For what it's worth, the CEO of Continental Resources was on CNBC this evening. He says it costs them ~$60/bbl to extract.

News Headlines

RB


Back around 2005 I was flying with a guy that used to be the comptroller at Chevron. He did that for 25 years. He was also in Libya when they nationalized all the U.S. assets for pennies on the dollar. This guy is a walking bag of numbers. He went into great detail on the costs and break even point associated with the oil sands. The number was between $50-60. If oil could stabilized above that price then you would see significant investment in oil sand/shale extraction. In his time at Chevron oil was too cheap to invest in sand/shale.

acl65pilot 03-16-2011 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 965013)
So are we going to unify around surrender and mediocrity? Or are we going to unify around restoring our profession and our careers? It seems that ALPA is all about the former. And if they can't get behind the latter, then they are of little use and I think we need to try something different. A good number of us will not unify around surrender and mediocrity. There's your problem.

unify around the organization that has the structure in place to get the greatest gains, and to effectively protect your career.

scambo1 03-16-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 965021)
Gotcha... it doesn't matter because chatauqua does plenty of flying on our certificate as well. So what gives? Gonna try to squirm out of this one? ;)


He's heard the "facts":cool:

tsquare 03-16-2011 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 965008)
. Reality is that this thread and the DPA thread prove that we can be divided and conquered very easily. We can still change that though.

Dude, if you think that EVERYBODY is going to fall in live with your beloved alpa and just froth at the mouth over every word that comes out of the national HQ, you seriously need to be drug tested.... There are 12,000 guys here, and there will be quite a few of them that will not agree with the national agenda. If that is what you think will lead to us being conquered, then we are doomed.

80ktsClamp 03-16-2011 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 965004)
If what you say is true, and a company or anything else was structured to get around any part of our contract, this is the perfect time to go to court to fight it. Just because it appears they have legally out maneuvered us, it does not mean we should approve the tactic by non-action.

The is a such thing as negotiating and contracting in good faith. If any party to a contract purposely acts in a way that is counter to the understanding of the agreement, I would argue that that party is in breach. Period.

but....but... we might not win!

(alpa lawyers are weak and the people advising them are know it alls that have never made at mistake in their life because they have the info and you don't!)

80ktsClamp 03-16-2011 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by FlighTimeBarbie (Post 965020)
It would appear, according to our new MEC Chairman (and former ALPA Collective Bargaining Chair), that pattern bargaining ended around 2001 (reference the graph on page 34):

http://www.alpa.org/publications/air_line_pilot_october_2010/Air_Line_Pilot_October_2010.pdf

Maybe someone could 'update' it for us?

LM and TO have both openly stated that pattern bargaining is over, and that we must get gains on our own. Still waiting for common strategy 2....

tsquare 03-16-2011 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 965028)
but....but... we might not win!

(alpa lawyers are weak and the people advising them are know it alls that have never made at mistake in their life because they have the info and you don't!)


Haven't you been paying attention? These are THE BEST labor lawyers EVER to walk the halls of a courtroom. We are soooooo fortunate to have them and should be on our knees daily with praises to the almighty legal team that serves us
at $500/hour.

Nosmo King 03-16-2011 07:40 AM

Effective immediately:

T-Mobile USA is enabling phone calls to Japan for postpaid customers without charges for international long distance through March 31, 2011, and retroactive to March 11, 2011.
T-Mobile postpaid customers can make Wi-Fi calls to and from Japan free of charge through March 31, 2011, and retroactive to March 11, 2011.
Text (SMS) messaging is also free of charge to and from Japan for T-Mobile postpaid customers through March 31, 2011 and retroactive to March 11, 2011.


This follows similar announcements from Verizon and ATT.

Let your fellow crewmembers know so they can pass it on to their families while they are on Japan trips.

acl65pilot 03-16-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 965021)
Gotcha... it doesn't matter because chatauqua does plenty of flying on our certificate as well. So what gives? Gonna try to squirm out of this one? ;)

Yes, they do, but they do not fly jets larger than 76 seats for us on that certificate. Same stuff there 80. Now if the Republic Certificate was doing our flying, we would have a case since they are flying 190's for the MEC/F9 branded flying. Same thing with the F9 certificate.

Nice to jump in with a quip or two, but this is the reality.

To T, it is not a love fest of any level. It is reality, ya know where we all really live.

80, TO never said patterning was dead. RA stated it after we were patterned down in CH11. Of course the company wants it dead.

We (DALPA) will use any method to extract the most for our pilots.

Instead of being keyboard warriors, volunteer your time, go take your rep out for coffee or a dinner and ask them all of these questions. T, you got a real ball banger in NYC, go see what he says. Most likely he will agree with you, like me that the RJET thing sucks, but he will also tell you what reality is. Fight the correct fight, which is to change the wording in the contract, not to fight a structure with the current wording.

georgetg 03-16-2011 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by FlighTimeBarbie (Post 965020)
It would appear, according to our new MEC Chairman (and former ALPA Collective Bargaining Chair), that pattern bargaining ended around 2001 (reference the graph on page 34):

http://www.alpa.org/publications/air_line_pilot_october_2010/Air_Line_Pilot_October_2010.pdf

Maybe someone could 'update' it for us?

You didn't really read the article did you?

Cheers
George


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